A thing that I have recently noticed more and more is how well the acting in the newer German cinema is. In "Sommer '04" by director Stefan Krohmer and writer Daniel Nocke it is definitely Martina Gedeck who stands out. Her character Miriam is very self-confident, but still natural and believable. Her decisions often seem volatile, which not only applies for her, but also for the other female main character Livia (played by young talent Svea Lohde). Livia is the center of the story that unveils and when she eventually dies (very surprisingly), I definitely was stunned by the triviality that it happened with. The only thing not believable was the ending. Maybe screenwriter Daniel Nocke felt the need to add a big final twist to his otherwise very good script, but it did more harm than it did good. But this is outweighed by the strong sides of this film. All characters are very realistic, and although I didn't really sympathize with anyone of them, it seemed to me as if I knew every one of them.
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Keeps you guessing to the very end
paul-allaer18 August 2015
"Summer '04" (2006 release from Germany; 97 min.) opens with two teenagers returning from a bike trip in the countryside. We learn that it is 15 yr. old Nils and his "girlfriend" Livia, all of 12 yrs. old. Livia is staying with Nils and his parents, Andre and Miriam. The next day, when they go out sailing, Nils decides to come home early, and instead Livia is going sailing with Bill, a thirty-something former sports manager in the US who has recently returned to Germany. What exactly is the nature of the relationship between Livia and Bill? or for that matter between Livia and Nils? At this point we are just 10-15 min. into the movie but to tell you more would spoil your viewing experience, you'll just have to see for yourself how it all plays out.
Couple of comments: first, the utter laisser-faire attitude of the family towards a potential friendship or relationship between 30-something Bill and 12 yr. old Livia is outright shocking. Here is Nils, the supposed boyfriend who couldn't care less what Livia does or doesn't do, with or without Bill, showing no concern or jealousy, I mean none. His standard response to any and all gentle questions from his mom or dad is: "None of your business!". Really? Is this a portrayal of real life mores in contemporary Germany, or is this some fantasy in the writer's mind? Second, assuming you can overcome the first hurdle I just described, the movie is actually quite good, in particular as the 'plot' starts to thicken. It kept me guessing as to what direction all of this would be going into. The movie's Big Twist comes just over an hour into it, and one that I truly did not see coming at all. It sets up what I had expected to be a riveting last 30 min. and I still wasn't sure how it would all end. I'm obviously not going to spoil the ending. All I will say is that it came as a huge letdown to me (and hence I cannot rate this film higher than 6/10).
I was browsing the foreign film section at my local library the other day in pursuit of hopefully something good to watch. Didn't really know much about the movie and took a flier on it. It worked out okay but not great. About the best thing I can say is that it kept my interest as the movie unfolded. Strictly for foreign movie aficionados.
Couple of comments: first, the utter laisser-faire attitude of the family towards a potential friendship or relationship between 30-something Bill and 12 yr. old Livia is outright shocking. Here is Nils, the supposed boyfriend who couldn't care less what Livia does or doesn't do, with or without Bill, showing no concern or jealousy, I mean none. His standard response to any and all gentle questions from his mom or dad is: "None of your business!". Really? Is this a portrayal of real life mores in contemporary Germany, or is this some fantasy in the writer's mind? Second, assuming you can overcome the first hurdle I just described, the movie is actually quite good, in particular as the 'plot' starts to thicken. It kept me guessing as to what direction all of this would be going into. The movie's Big Twist comes just over an hour into it, and one that I truly did not see coming at all. It sets up what I had expected to be a riveting last 30 min. and I still wasn't sure how it would all end. I'm obviously not going to spoil the ending. All I will say is that it came as a huge letdown to me (and hence I cannot rate this film higher than 6/10).
I was browsing the foreign film section at my local library the other day in pursuit of hopefully something good to watch. Didn't really know much about the movie and took a flier on it. It worked out okay but not great. About the best thing I can say is that it kept my interest as the movie unfolded. Strictly for foreign movie aficionados.
I expect more from summer
Horst_In_Translation6 April 2017
Warning: Spoilers
"Sommer '04" or "Sommer '04 an der Schlei" is a German 90-minute movie from 2006, so this one had its 10th anniversary last year. The director is Stefan Krohmer and the screenplay is by Daniel Nocke and both are prolific small screen filmmakers, so here we have the rare occasion of seeing a big screen film by these two that have worked together on quite a few occasions. The main reason for this film being somewhat known is probably lead actress Martina Gedeck and this movie here is actually from the very same year when she starred in her most known work "Das Leben der Anderen", so great year for her, even if this summer movie did not really contribute too much to that. It is all about the relationships in here. People falling in and out of love and there is also a bit of a Lolita aspect to the film. The latter is also the crucial aspect here in how well you will like this movie. I personally wasn't impressed by Svea Lohde unfortunately. She occasionally acts in a solid manner from the physical performance, but other than that I think she wasn't memorable at all and a better casting decision could have helped the film a lot. Seeliger is also relatively forgettable I think and Davor's character does not get half the screen time and elaboration he deserved. And not just the one he deserved, but also the one Gedeck's character deserved as she is so close to him. As for the crucial scene in the last third of the movie on the boat, well.. it's personal taste how much you like it and how much it makes sense to you. For me, it was all a bit for the sake of it to be honest. And eventually, after Seeliger's character basically ditched Gedeck's already, then we see at the end that they are a couple a long time after and apparently also happy? Oh well this does not fit at all in terms of what we saw earlier. I think Gedeck is a pretty solid actress, but this film here just has too many weaknesses overall for her to make up for it and besides, she is not that memorable either and has given several superior performances in her career. This 1.5-hour movie is not a failure by any means, but you see from start to finish how it reeks of unfulfilled ambition, but it comes so short with every impact it is trying to make. I give it a thumbs-down. Not recommended.
Sailing into deep blue water
Chris_Docker2 August 2006
The time of adolescence is always a troubling one for parents, and the worry may be just as great for those in loco parentis and dealing with exceptionally intelligent but precocious young teenagers.
Miriam and Andre are a well-educated middle class family on holiday at the Baltic coast with their 15 year old son, Niels, and his 12 year old girlfriend, Livia. All four of them are good at handling boats, which plays a big part in the story. Although both children are coping with their hormones and attitudes towards sex to varying degrees, Miriam feels especially protective towards Livia, whose openness can easily be mistaken for flirtatiousness. Livia strikes up a friendship with an older man, Bill, after going sailing with him. He seems responsible and respectable, but Miriam is concerned when Livia announces she is staying over at his house. Her initial doubts seem unfounded, but then she finds herself in an unexpected triangle, competing with the young girl for Bill's affections.
From gentle, idyllic beginnings, Summer '04 builds into edge-of-the-seat tension as we are concerned first for Livia, then watching in fascination as Miriam is drawn into an impossible scenario. Bill's attempts to maintain his distance are balanced like a knife edge, and a seemingly minor accident at sea throws everything into confusion. To top it off, a surprisingly beautiful and very touching ending humbles us with the unexpected depth of insight of one of the characters.
Summer '04 hits the mark with actors that perform as if there is no camera there, lush countryside that makes you want to put your feet up, gripping action as the two women struggle to handle the boat, and a refreshing absence of background music. Simmering sexual tensions rounded off with heartbreaking tenderness make it a tour de force for all lovers of European cinema.
The sudden switches between breakneck action and slow, languorous camera-work could be off-putting to mainstream audiences, but there is plenty of thought provoking stuff in Summer '04 for those who can be bothered.
Miriam and Andre are a well-educated middle class family on holiday at the Baltic coast with their 15 year old son, Niels, and his 12 year old girlfriend, Livia. All four of them are good at handling boats, which plays a big part in the story. Although both children are coping with their hormones and attitudes towards sex to varying degrees, Miriam feels especially protective towards Livia, whose openness can easily be mistaken for flirtatiousness. Livia strikes up a friendship with an older man, Bill, after going sailing with him. He seems responsible and respectable, but Miriam is concerned when Livia announces she is staying over at his house. Her initial doubts seem unfounded, but then she finds herself in an unexpected triangle, competing with the young girl for Bill's affections.
From gentle, idyllic beginnings, Summer '04 builds into edge-of-the-seat tension as we are concerned first for Livia, then watching in fascination as Miriam is drawn into an impossible scenario. Bill's attempts to maintain his distance are balanced like a knife edge, and a seemingly minor accident at sea throws everything into confusion. To top it off, a surprisingly beautiful and very touching ending humbles us with the unexpected depth of insight of one of the characters.
Summer '04 hits the mark with actors that perform as if there is no camera there, lush countryside that makes you want to put your feet up, gripping action as the two women struggle to handle the boat, and a refreshing absence of background music. Simmering sexual tensions rounded off with heartbreaking tenderness make it a tour de force for all lovers of European cinema.
The sudden switches between breakneck action and slow, languorous camera-work could be off-putting to mainstream audiences, but there is plenty of thought provoking stuff in Summer '04 for those who can be bothered.
A bit simple and disjointed, a summer vacation in Germany.
TxMike23 February 2010
Warning: Spoilers
This is one of the streaming movies available on Netflix. It is under the general category of "coming of age" but it isn't that at all. German with English subtitles.
A family is spending the summer in a sparse cottage near a large lake, and their usual daytime pastime is to go sailing. There is a mother, a father and a 15 year old son. In addition the 12 year old girlfriend of the boy is staying with them, while her parents are somewhere vacationing in Mexico. It seems strange that there is no contact with the absent parents, and there is no way to contact them.
Quite by coincidence the group meets a man, who also sails, and who lives alone nearby. The man brings home the 12 year old girl, and soon the family caring for her begins to distrust the man's motives. What is a 40-something man doing spending time alone with a 12 year girl? Later in the movie it gets more complicated when the man declares he is in love with the young girl.
Martina Gedeck, 40-something, is the mother, Miriam Franz. Peter Davor is her husband, André. Lucas Kotaranin is their teen son, Nils. Svea Lohde, who really was 12 or 13 during filming, is the girl, Livia.
The man who takes a liking to Livia is Robert Seeliger as Bill, who by his own admission had many, many women while he was in the USA, but now only had honorable intentions towards Livia.
This movie has some interesting elements, but overall not a particularly good or satisfying movie.
SPOILERS: During one of the sailing days, Miriam insists that she and Livia would sail together, while the others sailed in another boat. She wanted to talk to her, ask her to stay away from Bill, right after Bill had told Miriam his feelings for Livia. This happened while Miriam and Bill also were having an affair, meeting at his place some afternoons. But while sailing Livia accidentally hit her head on the side of the boat when they were switching sail directions, and a few minutes later she had to lie down, and went to sleep. A coma actually, because soon we were seeing them plan a funeral. A year or two later Miriam and Bill had gotten together and met Livia's parents who brought a letter Livia had written that summer, she had recognized Miriam and Bill would be a better couple, and it was her intent to try to bring them together.
A family is spending the summer in a sparse cottage near a large lake, and their usual daytime pastime is to go sailing. There is a mother, a father and a 15 year old son. In addition the 12 year old girlfriend of the boy is staying with them, while her parents are somewhere vacationing in Mexico. It seems strange that there is no contact with the absent parents, and there is no way to contact them.
Quite by coincidence the group meets a man, who also sails, and who lives alone nearby. The man brings home the 12 year old girl, and soon the family caring for her begins to distrust the man's motives. What is a 40-something man doing spending time alone with a 12 year girl? Later in the movie it gets more complicated when the man declares he is in love with the young girl.
Martina Gedeck, 40-something, is the mother, Miriam Franz. Peter Davor is her husband, André. Lucas Kotaranin is their teen son, Nils. Svea Lohde, who really was 12 or 13 during filming, is the girl, Livia.
The man who takes a liking to Livia is Robert Seeliger as Bill, who by his own admission had many, many women while he was in the USA, but now only had honorable intentions towards Livia.
This movie has some interesting elements, but overall not a particularly good or satisfying movie.
SPOILERS: During one of the sailing days, Miriam insists that she and Livia would sail together, while the others sailed in another boat. She wanted to talk to her, ask her to stay away from Bill, right after Bill had told Miriam his feelings for Livia. This happened while Miriam and Bill also were having an affair, meeting at his place some afternoons. But while sailing Livia accidentally hit her head on the side of the boat when they were switching sail directions, and a few minutes later she had to lie down, and went to sleep. A coma actually, because soon we were seeing them plan a funeral. A year or two later Miriam and Bill had gotten together and met Livia's parents who brought a letter Livia had written that summer, she had recognized Miriam and Bill would be a better couple, and it was her intent to try to bring them together.
Confusing, disjointed and boring
DVDMan-527 July 2006
Summer 04 tells the story of 12 year old Livia (Svea Lohde) who is staying with her boyfriend Nils (Lucas Kotaranin) and his parents Andre (Peter Davor) and Mirjam (Martina Gedeck) while her parents vacation in Mexico. As the film opens Livia has been out sailing with older man (I'd say mid 30s) Bill (Robert Seeliger) who she has just met while out with Nils. Nils has not gone with her and apparently does not mind and Livia will spend more time alone with Bill. Mirjam thinks this is a bit inappropriate and confronts Bill about it. Despite more or less accusing him of being a paedophile, Mirjam decides to go out boating alone with Bill while Andre goes out alone with Livia. (Nils again has decided to stay at home). Strangely Andre does not seem to find that his wife is going out alone with a younger man. From there the plot just gets more convoluted and confusing.
The real problem with this film is that the characters motivations don't make sense. Ultimately this film is building up to a twist of sorts and the writer and director seem intent on reaching that point irrespective of how much logic there is in the journey to get there makes. This is director Stefan Krohmer's first feature film and his inexperience really shows. There are whole scenes with little or no point. One scene must lead up to Andre driving past Nils who is on a bike. To get there we go on a journey with Andre to the local recycling station where we see him painstakingly sorting out all his recyclables before getting back in the car and finally driving up to Nils. Did we really need all of that? I really can not recommend this film at all. It's disjointed, jumps around and for most part is just boring and worse, confusing. 3/10.
The real problem with this film is that the characters motivations don't make sense. Ultimately this film is building up to a twist of sorts and the writer and director seem intent on reaching that point irrespective of how much logic there is in the journey to get there makes. This is director Stefan Krohmer's first feature film and his inexperience really shows. There are whole scenes with little or no point. One scene must lead up to Andre driving past Nils who is on a bike. To get there we go on a journey with Andre to the local recycling station where we see him painstakingly sorting out all his recyclables before getting back in the car and finally driving up to Nils. Did we really need all of that? I really can not recommend this film at all. It's disjointed, jumps around and for most part is just boring and worse, confusing. 3/10.
A German film in the French mode..totally satisfying
john-57522 April 2007
Currently playing at the 2007 German Film Festival in Apr 2007 in Australia Summer 04 was the first of about 5 German films I will see in the 10 day festival in Melbourne. http://www.goethe.de/ins/au/lp/prj/ff07/enindex.htm
Most festivals one film will be the standout. With 2 down and 3 or 4 to go I think this is the one.
Really enjoyed all the main performances, namely Martina Gedeck as a late 30's, early 40's woman, the very handsome mid 30s Bill (Robert Seeliger) and the stunning looking Svea Lohde who plays a 12 year old girl in this movie but whose character in some ways is more mature, self assured and worldly. With the relaxed moral views of the parents in this movie and the early sexual maturity portrayed here and accepted by the parents especially the Dad it's hard to say whether she's Lolita-like or not. Development wise she looks the age of the character and yet her outlook is more like someone in their later teens. I consider myself very liberal but on age of consent issues this freedom could raise an eyebrow or two. I've never really understood fully the concept of complete personal freedom. Of course here in Australia the age of consent is still 16. In Europe perhaps it's lower?
But very nice locations, interesting story, the gentle pace of summer, some sizzling sex scenes and the way the movie pans out in the finish. A very satisfying film that shows a clean pair of heels to most French films that are very good at this genre. Put it this way, Martina's character could have been played by Charlotte Rampling if this was a French movie and Charlotte was about 40 at the time. But this is to take nothing away from Martina's performance.
I'll be looking for more work from these main actors. And I wonder how the other Australian reviewer managed to review this movie back in 2006. Especially how or where he got to see the movie or obtain the DVD. Perhaps the Melbourne 2006 Film Festival. Must keep my eye out for any German entries in this in the Jul 2007 one.
Most festivals one film will be the standout. With 2 down and 3 or 4 to go I think this is the one.
Really enjoyed all the main performances, namely Martina Gedeck as a late 30's, early 40's woman, the very handsome mid 30s Bill (Robert Seeliger) and the stunning looking Svea Lohde who plays a 12 year old girl in this movie but whose character in some ways is more mature, self assured and worldly. With the relaxed moral views of the parents in this movie and the early sexual maturity portrayed here and accepted by the parents especially the Dad it's hard to say whether she's Lolita-like or not. Development wise she looks the age of the character and yet her outlook is more like someone in their later teens. I consider myself very liberal but on age of consent issues this freedom could raise an eyebrow or two. I've never really understood fully the concept of complete personal freedom. Of course here in Australia the age of consent is still 16. In Europe perhaps it's lower?
But very nice locations, interesting story, the gentle pace of summer, some sizzling sex scenes and the way the movie pans out in the finish. A very satisfying film that shows a clean pair of heels to most French films that are very good at this genre. Put it this way, Martina's character could have been played by Charlotte Rampling if this was a French movie and Charlotte was about 40 at the time. But this is to take nothing away from Martina's performance.
I'll be looking for more work from these main actors. And I wonder how the other Australian reviewer managed to review this movie back in 2006. Especially how or where he got to see the movie or obtain the DVD. Perhaps the Melbourne 2006 Film Festival. Must keep my eye out for any German entries in this in the Jul 2007 one.
A twelve year old girl must choose her rapist
trpdean27 November 2019
Warning: Spoilers
As the mother of one of the rapists herself falls for the other rapist - on vacation in a charming north German town.
It's an astounding film - as the family - outwardly normal - has attitudes toward the rape of children that are utterly casual and indifferent. At one point, the 16 year old son (one of the two rapists) says he's unconcerned that the child victim is out with a man in his 30s who will take him away from her.
The mother asks her son what he thinks the child - who's failed to return home - is now doing with the man in his 30s. The son tells his mother "they're [the 12 year old child) probably having sex" right now.
He's confused why his mother (to whom the girl's family entrusted the child for this vacation) is interested in such a rape. "After all", he says, "you wouldn't be concerned if I were raping her - why be concerned if Bill is?" No one raises an eyebrow.
It stuns.
It's an astounding film - as the family - outwardly normal - has attitudes toward the rape of children that are utterly casual and indifferent. At one point, the 16 year old son (one of the two rapists) says he's unconcerned that the child victim is out with a man in his 30s who will take him away from her.
The mother asks her son what he thinks the child - who's failed to return home - is now doing with the man in his 30s. The son tells his mother "they're [the 12 year old child) probably having sex" right now.
He's confused why his mother (to whom the girl's family entrusted the child for this vacation) is interested in such a rape. "After all", he says, "you wouldn't be concerned if I were raping her - why be concerned if Bill is?" No one raises an eyebrow.
It stuns.
jealousy and lust in a middle aged woman
danyks-2441517 September 2023
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I think the letter at the end is unnecessary...because there is no coherence with the rest of the film...it is inversible...now about the movie it is about a liberal family that has no taboos...because of the way That Mirian blatantly comes on to Bill seems like she's done it before with other lovers. But something curious is that Bill rejects her 3 times and humiliatingly tells her after sleeping with her that he is in love with Livia. I think that's where the drama itself begins... because it creates jealousy in Miriam and bad intentions about Livia... Miriam takes advantage of the situation when she asks Bill if she has told Livia that she is in love with her. He says not yet. So she uses this to get Livia away from Bill at any cost. If Bill had told Livia that he was in love things would have been different even if Livia's intention was for him to be with Miriam... Bill would have been honest that he was not interested in Miriam and Livia's whole plan would have ended maybe she would have given Bill a chance... now continuing with the plot Miriam had jealousy and bad intentions against Livia... somehow Miriam is the one responsible for Livia's death because she wanted to return, she felt bad...Mirian did the opposite. After Livia died Miriam maliciously realizes that she now has a clear path to conquer Bill but even so Bill rejects her... Mirian loses all dignity and sense of coherence due to her lust and insists again... Bill receives her but not because he is in love but because of Miriam's insistence... in the end when Livia's mother reads her the letter and asks her if she is happy, Mirian is nervous because her conscience makes her remember all the bad things she did to stay with Bill and that she didn't deserve it.
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