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9/10
the voyage of life
mjneu5911 January 2011
"Give me the child until he is seven, and I will give you the man." So goes the old proverb, and the proof is in this fascinating documentary, the fourth chapter in an ambitious, ongoing epic of non-fiction filmmaking already two decades in the making at the time.

The project began in the middle 1960s as a modest examination of English class divisions in a group of seven-year old children from different social backgrounds, and has been updated every seven years to show their progress through adolescence to young adulthood. Each individual biography resists the pre-determined notions of (specifically English) status and privilege around which the entire cycle of films is based, becoming instead a record of the same, sometimes rocky path to maturity followed by everyone, regardless of upbringing. At age seven every child is carefree and impressionable; at fourteen most are sullen and inhibited, uncomfortable in puberty; at twenty-one they are, by degrees, poised to reach their potential: eager and naive or cynical and confused.

And by age 28 their niche in society has been secured, for better or (sadly) for worse. The candid self-analysis, and the range of insight and opinion, makes the film (individually, and as a series) an invaluable document of human growth and development, as well as an irresistible reminder of our own personal destiny.
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9/10
The stories are now fascinating
SnoopyStyle13 November 2013
Director Michael Apted returns to interview this group of people 7 years later. They are 28 now, and things keep changing. We are now further and further away from the social studies aspects of the original idea. These are great stories about real people. The phrase that you can't make this up is really coming true here. There are still questions about school, about money, about class system, but they are almost distractions now. These people are not just about the stereotypes although some do try very hard.

Neil is now fully gone into the wilds and alone. Suzy has finally found happiness and it's obvious now how miserable she was in the first 3 films. Everybody else is changing in their lives in different ways. Charles has dropped out of the series all together. The series is getting more and more fascinating.
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9/10
Gaining in maturity, and complexity...
ElMaruecan8222 December 2017
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I can't stop being amazed at how riveting these "Up" documentaries are. Once again, without any music, dramatization tricks or cinematic effects, only real people talking about life and love, the film can be as captivating as any drama or adventure. It IS an adventure to some degree, with life as a backdrop and adversity as a natural antagonist.

And there was an interesting statement made by Neil, perhaps the most troubled and fascinating subject, he said that he envisioned God as an old Testament figure, sometimes "benevolent", sometimes "needlessly unkind", always "unpredictable". I said about Neil that he always seemed to provide overviews proved by the others' experiences. In this case, it is true because basically, you can see how destiny was benevolent to most of the "Up" persons, even some I didn't expect.

Many of them had found love and marriage, Tony; the ex-jockey has been driving cabs for all these years and has two children, his happy-go-lucky nature and the many encounters with people from different classes allowed him to broaden his mind and soften his heart. Nicholas is a physician in the USA, Paul started a building trade and raised a family in Australia, after going for a road trip across the Bush with his wife. Not all the marriages look happy though, Peter seems to have a rather 'disillusioned' vision and you can't really feel sparkles of love exuding from his wife's words. There's still a lack of contentment.

But the real 'miracle' came from Suzie. It's weird but in my previous review, I thought Jackie was going to have a large family and Suzie to be a disenchanted, embittered spinster. But Jackie decided not to have any children (despite an early marriage) and Suzie got married two years after the "21 Up" episode, has two children and is quite happy. Simon is happy too with twice more children, whom he provides a shelter of love and discipline, and perhaps the most valuable thing he always lacked: a parents' presence. And he also kept his job in the meat locker, not the most glamorous occupation, but it makes end meet, he knows everybody and everybody knows him. Why change now?

Simon is happy the way he is, and he still doesn't think much about money. According to him, there's nothing that money will buy. Happiness depends on the goals you've set. It's even harder to disagree with him since 28 seems to be the age where everyone has found the meaning to their lives or roots for stability. Sue said that a marriage shouldn't be too early because once you get married, you stop being yourself and start to reason in terms of partnership. But some found their real balance in marriage, and some, like Neil, have hard times even co-existing with themselves.

Neil is totally disenchanted and have definitely abandoned any attempt at stability or suburban comfort. His case proves that happiness isn't a matter of grammar or comprehensive school, of being rich or poor, it really depends on your personal goals and the way you grasp from the start who you really are. Sometimes, you've got to know who you are to know what you need, and maybe the real tragedy is not to able to know who you are. This is perhaps the existential dilemma revealed by the film, and that makes it, so far, the most pivotal.

Indeed, how can we know exactly who we are. Looking at these kids at the age of 7, or 14, we become like sorcerer's apprentices, trying to establish patterns "this one will struggle", "this one will be happy", But life is unpredictable or for most people. Two of the posh kids didn't want to take part of the interviews, John and Charles. No commentator was surprised a bit by John, Charles was far more interesting fellow, but from the start, John was so overly confident, he knew his future school, job and everything went exactly as planned, he declined to be interviewed at 28, stating that he was fully satisfied and doesn't have much more to say.

The boy always seemed so precocious, ahead of time and maybe that's how he ended up succeeding in every project. But for some reason, I wish I would still see him at 35 and check if anything happened to vacillate the edifice of his self-confidence. I doubt he'd live all his life in autopilot mode. But that's how it works, some things we see coming, some surprise us in a pleasant, others in an unpleasant way. And I found myself trying to figure out what will happen to these persons at 35.

I keep in mind that they are from my parents' generation, and when I was born, most adults I knew were married with children, no one really questioned his existence, the way we millennials (or some Gen X-ers) did. Watching this, I realized that at the age of 28, although I was longing for professional stability, I also had many dreams about becoming a filmmaker and screenwriter and collected dates before I would find the 'right' one. Seven years after, I realize that I had all it took to be happy butwas too blinded to realize it.

And the "Up" series gives you an idea of the belated blinding effects, from little details of your past. You can spot some early hints; the way some kids are overly protected, the lack of love that can work as both a driver or an obstacle. I'm not in a situation I dreamed to be when I was 7, 14 or 21 but I'm still the same guy and whatever actions lead me to that situation were driven by interpretations of life gathered from my past experiences. So how did I end up that way?

In fact, that could be the central question of the documentary, like an existential reading of "what happened?"
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10/10
The Man
Cineanalyst23 February 2004
"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man," goes a Jesuit proverb, which the "Up" documentaries quote. Every seven years, Michael Apted interviews the same Britons to see how they have changed. "28 Up" is the fourth installment of the series--the interviewees are now each 28 years old. The children are now the men, or women. It's not necessary to have seen, or recall, the previous installments of the television series to watch this episode, because the filmmakers intercalate clips from previous episodes with the new scenes. Via film editors Kim Horton and Oral Norrie Ottey, "28 Up" stands well by itself. We're timely shown how the interviewees have changed.

The proverb seems oft to hold true, but there are some surprises. Suzi, for example, was "very cynical" about marriage as a 21-year-old chain-smoker, but at 28 years old is a cheerful wife. Tony, however, said he wanted to be a cabby if he didn't succeed as a jockey--now he is a cabby, and he seems happy.

Besides examining their individual lives, the series also examines the differences among socioeconomic classes in Britain. John, although he didn't participate in the show at 28 years old, made two interesting comments on class issues in previous episodes (viewed again here). He said it "doesn't mean because you sweep the streets you're any less valuable than someone who's running a huge corporation. Not everyone can be at the top. As long as people are happy at what they're doing." John is from the upper classes and attended a private school. He went onto say, "And this is what worries me about these new sort of invidious sort of class attitudes that certain subversive elements are introducing...."

Class issues don't seem to bother most of the cast; most of them seem content with their role in society, as John advocated as the "greatest good that could be." Yet, John is also a bit of a snob. Contrastingly, Bruce is a socialist from the upper classes, and he is now teaching math in a public school.

Women's role in family and society is another issue examined in the film. Jackie, Nick's wife, discussed how she and her husband might balance work with children. Jackie (a different one), Lynn and Sue are the program's three working-class women. They're all married now, and they characterized marriage as a partnership of equals. Jackie has decided not to have children, at least not yet.

Inevitably, some of the interviewees are more interesting than others are. For example, Symon (who had the misfortune of being the last interviewed) was a bit boring. At 21 years old, he was working in a freezer room; he said, "I couldn't stay there for that long--my mind would go dead." He's still working there at 28 years old. It wasn't apparent to me that his mind had died, but perhaps the job has caused him to appear dull in this segment.

Finally, Neil, lanky, serious-minded and depressed, is to me (and many other viewers) the most interesting person of the gang. Neil is now a tramp traveling around Britain. The most memorable sequence of the film is of Neil nodding nervously as he sits by a waterfront, discussing his life and past, hesitating often as he thinks about how to better articulate his thoughts, or to reflect on his thoughts before he is posed another question.
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10/10
Us and Neil
Quinoa198410 February 2010
In 28 Up, it seems like the 'the Man' part of the 'Give me a Child' bit that is quoted in every Up movie is starting to take shape, for the men and women. Or, at least, most of them. We see the gradual progression of life start to take shape: careers, over the course of the people's 20's, have been sought out, and they've gotten married and/or had children. Some, in fact, who weren't married before have been changed for the better it would seem by being married (i.e. Jackie), and some aren't living in Britain anymore (one is a physicist living in America with his wife, another has lived in Australia for quite a long time).

The series in this 'episode' film centers around the real progress into adulthood, and how the interviewees now feel about how their lives, loves, careers have progressed. A given topic that comes up is how they think they've changed since being in the first film at seven, and the consensus, a strong one presented, is that a person is at least, potentially, there at the age, but needs to grow (like a seed). It's fascinating too to see how the children in groups have progressed about as expected, or with some relativity. For example the three boys, now adults, sitting in the same line (albeit one of them declined to be interviewed, ironic since he works for the BBC in 1985), one of whom a prissy, upper class citizen, and another not so much, based on hair-length perhaps.

In general 28 Up seems to view the subjects as they would be naturally by this point as adults, and some, like the bricklayer, revealed how they might turn out when let loose in the 'playground' at age seven, some building a house and some, well, not (another fascinating subject like this is the former jockey turned cab driver). And yet a good deal of these subjects, at least for the moment of 28, look set for their life, either with a current wife or kids or a steady income at something they've worked for... which brings us to Neil. He's the one who, at 28, has no current prospects, who was happy as a child but now is disillusioned to the fact that he doesn't have a career or much of a life, but in a way is fine with that (he applied to Oxford, but didn't get in). He's the stark, fascinating contrast that gives 28 Up a great sense of depth. The class system in Britain, or just in how it sets up these kids, is revealed in the highs, mediums and lows of living, and Neil is certainly a low, but not feeling bad about it (at the least, he says, he can eat now, unlike some years before).
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At 28, each is hitting his or her stride in life.
TxMike17 February 2006
Michael Apted must be congratulated for having (or perhaps stumbling upon) the vision for this study. Begin with 14 seven year olds in England, film them in a few interesting situations, and follow those same kids as they grow up. Every seven years. Because all of our lives transpire at roughly the same rates, we cannot actually observe children growing up. But this filmed approach is the next best thing.

In this film we get to see (most of) the same children at 7, 14, 21 and 28. Just as we saw a great difference from 14 to 21, again we see a great difference from 21 to 28. Having been in the working world for 5 or 6 years, most married and raising families, they no longer look and act like the searchers we saw in earlier films. Except for Neil, who at 7 seemed to be the brightest and most expressive, to a 28-year-old that never knows if he will be homeless the next month. As dramatic, in the opposite direction, was Suzy who went from a disenchanted dropout to a happy wife and mother. Still, in each subject we can identify characteristics that have stayed with them as they grew up.

We still see how the "process" has influenced the "product." To a good degree, who they are at 28 is a product of having been in the "UP" series every 7 years, and the internal pressure to be worthy for the world to see them.

This and all the others through '42-UP' in 1998 are on the 5-disk DVD set just out. ("49 UP" has been made but is not yet available on DVD.) However, simply seeing the most recent film (42-UP or 49-UP) is pretty good, because each film contains snippets of each of the former ones, allowing us to see how each child developed in 7-year increments.

Just a marvelous study of growing up.
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10/10
Unique and amazing series of films
runamokprods26 February 2011
The 'Up Series' represents one of the most fascinating and unusual uses of film in cinema history - a documentary life-long chronicle of the lives of 14 people starting at 7 years old, revisiting them every seven years through age 49 (so far).

While I could quibble, wishing for a bit more depth here and there (especially with the women, where there's a bit too much emphasis on love and marriage at the expense of all else), it's really an astounding, moving, frightening and uplifting document. There's no way to watch this remarkable series of films without reflecting deeply on one's own life, and how you have changed (and stayed the same) over your own lifetime.

While Michael Aped deserves every bit of credit he's received for this amazing piece of cultural anthropology, it's important to note this first film, 7 Up,was actually directed by Paul Almond, and Apted was a that point a researcher for the project.
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6/10
28 Up
MartinTeller10 January 2012
The highlights here are Nicholas and his relocation to Wisconsin and Neil continuing down the spiral of depression. Other than that, most of the subjects have just settled into comfortable, and somewhat mundane, lives. I was disappointed not to get more of John's douchiness, but he declined to be interviewed, as did one of the other rich (but far less douchey) kids. It's amusing to see the way Apted keeps trying to badger his subjects into expressing some kind of rage against the upper class, yet they're having no part of his agenda. They all (with the exception of Neil) seem quite content with their standing. I've decided to soldier on with the series, mostly because I've already invested so much in it, but I also remain curious about a few of the subjects.
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6/10
General idea better than final results...
moonspinner5524 May 2009
Filmmaker Michael Apted's pet project for British television (released theatrically in several countries) is an occasionally fascinating, sometimes boring documentary which spans many years as Apted interviews a handful of British schoolchildren in the 1950s, catching up with them seven years later and so on until the kids have reached the age of 25. For the sake of cinema, it is a shame that the subjects whom Apted initially chose for his portrait turned out to be such colorless personalities. There are a few tragedies which unfold with the heartrending beauty of fictional melodrama, yet this installment runs out of intriguing moments long before it is over. Apted is to be commended, nevertheless, for a brilliant cinematic idea. Followed in due time by "35 Up", "42 Up", "49 Up". **1/2 from ****
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4/10
Disappointing
asc8513 February 2010
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I originally saw 49Up, which led me to want to see 7Up and 7 plus 7. And I liked 21UP enough to want to see 28UP. And this one, for whatever reason, was a bore. Whether that's a function of what is happening to the people at 28, or a function of Apted's direction and editorial choices, I don't know. All I know is that I was pretty bored within the first 20 minutes of the picture, and at over 2 hours and 15 minutes, I knew I still had a long way to go.

Of course Neil is the most compelling of the players, and I got a kick out of Suzi's transformation from 21 to 28! But other than that, I thought it was all pretty boring.

I'm sure I'll see 35UP and 42UP to catch up to the series, but after 28UP, I'm much less motivated to do so.
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Disappointing
tedg25 June 2007
I got hooked on these. The first one was only mildly interesting, a sort of necessary toll. Everything of interest in it is repeated later, but it was a solid reference for the editions that followed. The next two editions were absolutely captivating.

There's something about that period before you become an adult, a time when switches could flip, butterflies can affect. The conceit of the series is that the British class system is deterministic. So the game in the first films is in engaging with these people in support. We send wishes into the ether, attempting to reach across space and time. The don't grow up until we see them and when they are restricted, it is because of constraints we allow.

Any failure at this stage, any flaw in character is in part our responsibility. So we experience a blizzard of minor successes and defeats. Each person is a collector of urges, each a measure of a successful or failed society. These two (14 up and 21 up) were engaging films.

But by now, these are genuine adults. What errors in formation that could be influenced by our surrogate parenting have already set. Now they are simply beings. The only mildly engaging of these souls is Neil, a bum on the dole. Everyone else is no more now than someone ordinary that you encounter in life, each on their own path, working on narrow futures beyond our control.

The major difference is that some have some things to claim over the others. Different things, but each presented in comparison.

I wonder if I can stand the investment of what comes next.

Following this, you are following Apted as he grows in skill, insight. What he looks for as signs of maturity. I hope he is up to the task. His other films seem to imply that he is one of the failures, that our urges, wishes, prayers didn't reach him.

Ted's Evaluation -- 2 of 3: Has some interesting elements.
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