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Has Its Moments
dougdoepke31 October 2014
This episode has charming moments, despite being a stretch at times. Plus, the boys are shown as not being above some fast talking of their own when tacky promoter Coyne (Wynn) hires them for his traveling beauty contest. Coyne promises winners a spot in the movies, but studios ignore his overtures. So, just how much of a con-man is he. Needless to say, the 60-minutes smooths out many rough edges.

That opening pool hall sequence is a grabber since we wonder who's hustling whom. Good to see Lois Nettleton (the waitress) again after so many years. Her career specialized in plain Jane parts as she does here. Nonetheless, her little disclosure about what's its like being a plain girl in a small town is poignant. Series heavyweight Silliphant did the screenplay, including some good throwaway lines—Todd ogling one of the girls, saying he likes not just bar-be- que, but good ribs generally. Bob Altman directs with a generally light touch, even if Todd gets a slam-bang massage from heck. Note too, the every-day sidewalk scene that could only be done on location and not in Hollywood. All in all, another entertaining entry from an outstanding series.
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5/10
a Very Routine and Undistinguished Episode
rwint161126 May 2008
A very average episode dealing with Tod and Buz becoming involved with a huckster (Wynn) who bursts into the small town of Carlisle, Pennsylvania and tries to get everyone involved in a phony beauty contest. The story and characters are very routine and Wynn doesn't seem completely well cast for the part. There are a few good bits including a scene involving a disgruntled mother of a former contest winner who disrupts the current pageant. Nettleton also gives a real nice, long introspective speech at the end.

The episode also features Tod and Buz getting involved in a amusing bar room brawl at the beginning, but it is also very unrealistic. They come out of the fight, that involves at least four other men, without a single scratch of bruise on them.

Grade: B-
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12/1/61: "Some of the People, Some of the Time"
schappe18 May 2015
Warning: Spoilers
I watched Route 66 with my parents as a kid in the early 60's and never saw another episode until they appeared on Nick at Night in the 80's. During that period, my memory of the show was that it was a light-hearted, rather charming romp across America, with the occasional touch of serious drama. When I got a chance to see it again, I was surprised at all the dark episodes about twisted or sad people. I guess that means that the lighter episodes somehow made a great impression on me, (and my parents). They are often episodes you couldn't see as part of any other series. This one is a good example.

In the small town of Carlisle, Pennsylvania, (there's no mention of Jim Thorpe), Tod and Buz break up and wind up finishing a fight between Keenan Wynn, a small time con man, (it seems), who has just hustled some local toughs at pool. Wynn is running a beauty pageant with the prize being a trip to Hollywood and speaking part in a movie. He hires the boys to interview the applicants and pick the best ones. He goes from town to town doing this and getting the local merchants to offer prizes in exchange of publicity. He does in fact know a guy in Hollywood who has been getting bit parts for the young women he sends out there- bit parts that are filmed and then wind up on the cutting room floor. He makes his money by taking the prizes and selling them to a guy who follows him around to buy them so he can resell them at a profit. His problem is that he's now on the outs with the guy at the movie studio and his last beauty queen- and her mother are now after him to expose him as a fraud.

Meanwhile Todd becomes interested in a local waitress, a plain- looking, under-confident young woman perfectly played by Lois Nettleton, who has what I call an "actresses' face: she can be pretty and even glamorous when made up to look so or she can look like a plain Jane when the part demands it, (Angelina Jolie, for example, doesn't have that option). Tod convinces her to enter the pageant after a visit to some local stores and a hairdresser. She comes out a radiant, confident Cinderella, ready for the ball and wins the pageant, smiling not at the audience but at some fulfilled dream.

At that point the angry mother of the previous winner, with her sniffling daughter and the police in tow, invade the auditorium and declare the whole thing to be fake, demanding that everyone associated with the pageant be arrested. Lois just deeps smiling dreamily through it all.

Afterwards, in the local lock-up, Lois reveals that she, too is a "fake". She's seen the pageant at another town and followed it to Carlisle, gotten and a job as a waitress so she could enter it there. She wanted to win it all long, not because of the trip to Hollywood- she knows she doesn't belong out there- but because after all these years of taking people's orders and realizing that her customers had no idea who she was, she's now gotten the recognition she's always wanted. She's fulfilled and Wynn points out, (as soon as he's talked their way out of jail), that so has everyone else. He's made his money and can pay the boys theirs. The town got some excitement and t merchants their publicity. And the winner had her dream fulfilled. It reminded me a bit of the Music Man, without the music.

Incidentally, Lois Nettleton's career began when she was named Miss Chicago of 1948 and went on to make the top 15 at the Miss America pageant, (they had representatives of the major cities as well as states back then). But she didn't go to Hollywood. Instead she went to New York and the Actor's Studio, where she really learned her profession and became one the finest actresses of her generation, as she shows with her soliloquy in the lock-up.

The previous two episodes had a director who would make a big name for himself in the movies in the next decade, (Sam Peckinpaugh), and so did this one- Robert Altman, whose facility with character vignettes comes strongly into play here.
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Corny showbiz story
lor_5 April 2024
Silliphant delivers a hoary script as a vehicle for Keenan Wynn to play a stereotypical con man, fleecing locals (this time in small town Pennsylvania) with a traveling beauty/talent contest show. The week before, Sam Peckinpah failed to bring a poor screenplay to life, and now another legendary director, Robert Altman, flounders with mediocre material.

M & M have a weak off from emoting, settling for comedic reactions to well-worn situations: bamboozling young women with hopes of Hollywood movie contracts; getting local businesses to pay for sponsoring and advertising (with a ludicrous gag of a local masseur Olaf giving Milner a rough rubdown worthy of SNL rejection as a skit; and of course the angry stage mom whose daughter is heartbroken after Wynn's promise of a movie part falls through.

The actual awards ceremony and its disruption by the cops arresting Wynn and his helpers is amateurishly staged by Altman, hardly up the maestro's usual skills. Worse yet, co-star Lois Nettleton's nearly poignant performance is wasted as her character is poorly crafted by Silliphant, and the sudden attempt at seriousness doesn't fit the "Hee-Haw" level of the surrounding comedy shtick.
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