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6/10
Beautiful to watch but slightly tedious
phd_travel5 April 2012
This is a well cast and nicely filmed but uneven movie. The 2 leads Li Bing Bing and Gianna Jun are lovely in different ways. Only Asian actresses could play the same characters as teens and in their 30s convincingly.

The story concerns two pairs of best girl friends, one set in present day and one pair set in the mid 1800s in China. The modern story is a bit less interesting than the modern one. The 1800s story has bound feet (ouch), civil war and rural poverty. The modern story is about career and love with a foreigner (an unintentionally hilarious Hugh Jackman - that song!).

The changes between the 2 stories are a bit too frequent. It isn't confusing about who is who but it just breaks up and jumbles the narrative a little too much.

The movie is a bit long and maudlin. With too many lingering sad looks. Feel like shouting Hurry Up sometimes! That is the old fashioned Chinese soap opera part of it.

Overall worth one watch.
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6/10
Pale Parallel
jeroduptown15 October 2021
Snow Flower parallels two friendships, but not very well. The older story of two girls that both had bound feet and by lautong is rich - but the film has trouble translating it into the modern day story.
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7/10
Touching. Well Done
bob-rutzel-116 November 2011
In 1820s China, two young girls are committed to a tradition to be Sisters-for-Life. In modern day Shanghai, two teenage girls sign a contract to be Sisters-for-Life. This is a Chinese tradition known as Laotong. We would be more familiar with this as BFF, but a very, very intense BFF.

This was, I believe, our first introduction to Laotong.

We watch two stories unfold in the different time periods whereby the girls follow this tradition. To make things easier for us, each actress plays a character in both time periods. Gianna Jun plays Snowflower and Sophia, and Bingbing Li plays Nina and Lily. See?

Nothing of a sexual nature is shown in this deep love between these Sisters-for-Life. The movie could have gone there, but didn't, and we do not know if Laotong encompasses this. There seemed to be a deep caring for good things to happen in the life of each sister. That seemed to be the overriding aspect to the relationship. And, when one sister sees things not going well for the other sister, that watchful sister is torn both physically and mentally. Told you this was a deep love, didn't I?

The relationship doesn't change although each girl marries in the 1820s. The bond is still there and strong for Sophia and Lily in the present day although some wrinkles (read misunderstandings) appear. Some wrinkles also showed up in the 1820s with Snowflower and Nina; and the fan was used to communicate with each other.

A bicycle accident starts all this and Sophia is laid up in a hospital. Sophia had been writing a book about Laotong with her characters Snowflower and Nina back in the 1820s. Lily visits Sophia and finds and reads the pages to the book and that is how we go back to the 1820s with Snowflower and Nina.

This is extremely well done and the chemistry between the Sisters-for-Life in both time periods is excellent, intense and quite touching. There is a good mix of sub-titles and spoken English and the sub-titles are short and easy to read.

Hugh Jackman is good, and was probably only included to get the X-Men crowd. But, seriously, his name was the only one most could identify with to get people into the theaters or rent the DVD.

This is slow moving as you would expect, well acted by all and the cinematography was very good. And, since we do not know all the ramifications of Laotong we must accept the dialogues as presented.

If you decide to see this movie, bring a couple boxes of Kleenix with you. They will be needed.

Violence: Yes. Sex: Yes, Nina watches Snowflower and her husband thru loose boards in the floor,

but you only see the husband's back, and it only lasts a few seconds. Nudity: No. Language: No.
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Laotung and Nu shu: Two of the pleasures of a lovely story
gradyharp20 November 2011
SNOW FLOWER AND THE SECRET FAN is the cinematic adaptation of Lisa See's popular novel by writers Angela Workman, Ron Bass and Michael K. Ray and director Wayne Wang. The film unveils parallel stories between 19th century China and present day Shanghai - the tales of two women joined by laotong - a binding vow and contract to be eternal friends and share each others lives - communicating with a secret women's language called nu shu, carefully inked characters placed on the folds between the spines of a silken fan. By using the same actresses to play the parts of the girls two centuries apart adds a mysterious beauty to the films alluring flavor.

In 1826 Lily and Snow Flower become laotung and though they are from opposite ends of the social stratum they become devoted friends, undergoing the ritual of having their feet broken and bound to remain very small as adults - apparently a desired attribute for physical attraction as a potential bride. The poor girl is chosen for marriage by a wealthy family and the rich girl is promised to a butcher, an extreme reversal of roles in society and it is the manner in which each adapts and aids the other that demonstrates the depth of the bond of laotong. Concurrently in the film we meet Nina and Sophie in contemporary Shanghai: Nina has gained education and stature and is due to move to New York as part of an important business. Sophie is in an accident and only slowly do we realize that Sophie had the promise of moving to Australia to marry an Aussie singer (Hugh Jackman), more because she is pregnant than for love. Because of the laotung between Nina and Sophie the two make sacrifices that overcome all else to prove their loyalty. There are many parallels in the two stories that show a bond between the two sets of girls and to capture this bond securely the two girls form centuries apart are played by the same actresses: Lily/Nina become the roles of Bing Bing Li and Snow Flower/Sophie are portrayed by Gianna Jun. The supporting cast is carefully chosen and uniformly fine.

The sets and costumes and music enhance this film significantly. It is not a great epic of a movie, but it has a tender and touching story that is very well told by everyone involved.

Grady Harp
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6/10
Exotic past China and now
sergelamarche9 April 2018
The film parallels two friends in the now with the similar pair a century ago linked through a friendship of the bound feet. The bound feet was some sort of sexual fetishism of men during a period in China. It was well regarded for marriage. The stories are somewhat superficial otherwise though with little rationale sometimes. Good for the exotism and historical education nevertheless.
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6/10
Film Review - Snow Flower and the Secret Fan (2011) 5.8/10
lasttimeisaw1 July 2020
"In both cases, it is Sophia/Snow Flower who sensitively detects the gaping divergence in reality between her and Nina/Lily, and goes out of her way to sacrifice their friendship so that the latter can embrace her brighter future without a burden like her ungainly suffixed. While such action is somewhat irrational and overtly self-punishing on her side, one might detect Sophia/Snow Flower has a masochistic streak that often masks as fortitude (Snow Flower claims that in spite of the domestic violence, she still loves her hubby), that would have made her a more resounding and complex character had the South Korean megastar Jun been able to get out of the listless state perpetually shrouds her."

read my full review on my blog: cinema omnivore, thanks
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7/10
Beautiful but who understands Chinese?
dddanse1 January 2012
Watched this movie on home CD. Would loved to have seen it on the big screen.

This was a beautiful movie, but since most was spoken Chinese and for some odd reason the copy we watched from home had no sub-titles during the majority of the spoken word, which was Chinese, we had to guess at what was going on.

The movie is clear enough to figure things out and some English is spoken, but I would loved to have known what was being said during the Chinese spoken portions.

Overall, a lovely story of how close friendships are important. It also showed how people will find a way to connect, even when forbidden to do so.

I was also interesting to see how Chinese culture represses women.
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1/10
Snow Flower and the Secret Fan is one of the WORST film adaptations I've ever seen.
pineapple-sherbet9 August 2011
The book explores the culture of 19th century China through a woman's eyes; in the book you see real relationships and heartbreak. The movie squanders all of that in favor of appearing "artistic" or "deep"; something it does not pull off at all.

They unnecessarily add some modern characters to "parallel" the girls from the book. Said modern characters randomly switch between speaking Chinese and English, adding to the overall confusion and mess of the movie. The movie constantly switches back and forth from the modern to the actual book story line, making it extremely hard to follow, even for someone who has read the book. This also means that you make no real attachment to any of the characters. They change lines around and only include scenes of "significance" from the book- making it all completely insignificant. You get no sense of the deep-heart love they speak of. You barely see the characters at all.

Overall, it is essentially two hours of thinking, "Is the movie going to start yet?"

A real waste of an amazing book.
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9/10
Bounded feet and bounded love.
davidtraversa-116 December 2011
I finished reading all the previous reviews to have a clear idea about what other people saw in this movie, and I must say that all that emphasis about the film being too different from the book doesn't show a great understanding of the cinematic technique. A movie is not a book. The visual, with long shots and close ups, the dialogue and the music, even the noises, take over all the written pages to express a single gesture, the full description of a landscape, or the design of a dress. A single close up can give us the essence of a full chapter.

This movie is sheer poetry.

Forget about the original book that helped to create this jewel of a movie, just watch this film, allow your senses to be absorbed by the two parallel stories --the contemporary and the historical-- and just absorb all that beauty offered to you in the story-line, the exquisite photography, the delicacy of sentiments expressed by these women (it is a terrible film for men's egos, because we come a very poor second compared with those women, overpowered by men's brutality and yet transcending the horrible handicaps imposed on them, like the tiding of their feet from early age, to convert them into defenseless crippled creatures, totally depending on men, and their virtual slaves for life).

The image of those bounded stomps, deformed to the point of becoming unrecognizable as human feet symbolizes too the humiliation some ultraconservative elements of society try to impose over minorities as if to say: "There, you'll go thru life bounded and suffering, freedom to be yourself will be denied to you because I want it so".

The total love among these "Sisters for life" was infinitely superior to the love these women could have had for their husbands. We see that in both cases --the historic and the contemporary-- and in both cases it lasted, strong, to the last consequences.

Contrary to other viewers, I didn't have the slightest problem in following the development of the two parallel stories, since it was done in a very natural, simple and honest way; both stories superbly intertwined to perfection till the final resolution.

¿A masterpiece? yes, I think so.
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7/10
Hidden Love
twinsisterssanchez20 January 2021
"Snow Flower and The Secret Fan" is a beautiful, tender and interesting movie. Do people in China still have "laotong" or did it stop when women stopped binding their feet? What if the matchmaker paired up boys and girls from a young age just like in the movie so when they grow up, they already know and love one another instead of being forced into a marriage?
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3/10
0% like the book
elizgangsta22 March 2021
I just finished the book and I was so excited for a movie adaptation. But it barely had anything from the book and they added some modern day time line. The original book has no modern time line and has so much more depth than this awful movie.

The movie just didn't do it! Read the book!
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8/10
Staggeringly low rating for such a good film
perkypops14 December 2012
A film about laotong, the bonding of two women for eternity as kindred sisters, is unusual to say the least and one that is beautifully retold in the manner of so many oriental stories must be a rarity. The reason it works so well is because it is shot at two layers, one in the present day, and the other at a time when women needed each other for support. In fact the retelling of the latter is the result of a book written by Sophia of the life of Snow Flower in the title. In each layer Sophia/Snow Flower is bonded to Nina/Lily. The acting by Gianna Jun (Sophia/Snow Flower) and Bingbing Li as Nina/Lily is extraordinary with sterling support from an excellent cast. The cinematography and soundtrack are also first rate.

In essence the story explores love in many guises via the relationship of the two present day characters and their mirrors of old, but it is only at the conclusion of the film that we are allowed to be inside the minds of the kindred sisters and their relationship. This is not a film that pivots upon romantic love since it delves very deep into the agendas the women have and for that reason alone it may not be a commercial success. That shouldn't detract from its beauty as a work of art but clearly it has had an effect on the film's popularity on IMDb. And that is a shame because it is well worth lasting all of its one hundred and four minutes including the beautiful wash drawings displayed with the final credits.

I don't know how this film manages less than six on the ratings for I feel a little mean in only giving it eight because of the material it explores. It is worthy of a visit to cinema, or even ownership of a DVD. Oriental cinema has made another worthy addition to its growing list of excellent stories turned into film.
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7/10
Interesting.
SameirAli24 September 2021
The film interestingly says the story of two girls in the modern world and how their life story had a similar pattern with the two women generation ago. The parallel stories are interesting, but the film as a total was not much of a life. It was huge surprise to see Hugh Jackman in a small supporting role.
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4/10
Almost no emotional attachment
KineticSeoul21 March 2013
This is one of those bond between two characters movie done in a very generic manner to the point it just gets really boring easily. It tries to get that emotional pull from the audience but I just couldn't get into this one. The development and scenarios are just poorly done, maybe the novel this movie is based on is better or something. Cause this one felt like a cardboard box that just seemed to be trying too hard for something it just isn't when it comes to the overall experience. The story is about the bond between two sisters by match making that transcends time. The thing is the development is poorly done to the point I just couldn't get emotionally attached to the two main characters in this. It shows the outer bond and struggles but it seemed to only show the surface and nothing much underneath it all. Between the two sisters Bingbing Li's character Nina seemed like the main one and then comes Gianna Jun who's name is on the title of this movie. Her name is Snow Flower in this but she doesn't have much dialogue or show much range in her acting skills. Hugh Jackman is in this as well and he basically just makes few cameo appearance and seemed like he just was in this flick as a favor.

4/10
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It's no secret.
JohnDeSando20 July 2011
Sunflower and the Secret Fan is the poignant tale of two 21st century Asian girls and their matches in the 19th century: Both couples are bound by the dictates of a patriarchal culture that challenges the natural love and devotion they feel for each other. These lady laotongs or "old sames" take an oath to make them faithful sisters forever, the outward show of an enduring, lifelong commitment to their sisterhood.

Director Wayne Wang's challenge is to intercut the centuries and women without confusing the audience, a virtue not always achieved in two hours of traversing between times. His limited success can be attributed to the striking skyline of modern Shanghai, an apt metaphor for the change in the ladies' lives, indeed for change itself.

Just as arresting as the visual images is the stringed music of Rachel Portman, which dictates emotions as strongly as any other score I have heard this year. Some might complain of manipulation; I enjoy the excess as if it were an ancient Chinese fan of innumerable design. BTW, the titular fan was used by the 19th century ladies to make messages to each other in their special language. Wang's considerable success showing devoted friends in Joy Luck Club is evidenced in the ladies here.

The bonding of protagonists is strong on the surface, but because there is so much to do in only 2 hours, we never have sustained conversation among them to verify what we intuit without much dialogue. It would be sweet to linger more with them while they show through dialogue the bond that makes them sacrifice for each other throughout their lives.

Snow Flower and the Secret Fan in the end turns on love, its many forms and demands and on change, which frequently derails the best intentions of love itself. The ladies here evidence in delicate ways the tumult and reward accompanying a lifelong commitment to another human being. And that's no secret.
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1/10
Read the book!
istrosbay15 April 2018
Wonderful book, bad movie. The screenwriters failed to successfully transfer a beautiful story, rich with culture and deep relationships, to the big screen
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10/10
A winner is ""Snow Flower And The Secret Fan".
dhaufrect-19 February 2012
Wayne Wang has directed another winner, "Snow Flower and the Secret Fan". It is a well designed "chick flick" that overcomes ones emotions to the point of great empathy for both the characters and the eras in which it is set. Bingbing Li plays Nina/Lily, and Gianna Jun stars as Snow Flower/Sophia. They are like blood sisters who rotate back and forth from the 19th to the 21st centuries. The story is compelling. The religious and cultural overtones are educational and well depicted. The scenes in Shanghai as well as Australia are vistas that hold one in awe. It is a Drama worth viewing and now is on Blu Ray DVD and worth the effort for the clarity of sound and visual effect. The music is especially well adapted to the film and provides another reason for the extra effect of a good sound system.
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1/10
It's a wonder Amy Tan didn't sue
jholly-2563328 September 2022
I realize that when they adapt a book into a film that a lot of license is taken with the storyline. I also realize that to expect a film to lay out word for word is unrealistic. I have seen films that have surpassed the book they were based on and then there are the films like this. I seriously wonder whether ANYONE on the crew read the original material to understand exactly what this is supposed to be about.

I see a lot of reviews that think it has only to do with the friendship between two friends and how it is the same in different centuries. So doesn't come close to the themes in Amy Tan's beautiful story.

While the surface is about two friends, its also about the nature of people and how we change as we grow but how we should never forget the importance of our past. In the original text, Lily forgets this when she marries into an important family. She tries to change Snow Flower to be more like her not knowing the full situation. In essence, she forgets where she came from and who she is.

The movie only concentrates on friendship. That's it. Just a surface friendship. None of the subtleties of this special friendship at all. This is truly disappointing and I hope some day someone who has actually read the book will do a MUCH better job as I think this book should reach a farther audience that only film can do.
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9/10
Wonderfully emotional and beautiful...
paul_haakonsen23 December 2015
Not having seen "Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" before now in 2015 was a really big mistake on my account, because this movie is nothing short of spectacular. This is really a beautiful movie, and it is a definite must watch for anyone who enjoy cinema that offers something astounding.

The movie is really nicely set up as it skips back and forth between present day China and ancient China, as we follow two sisters in the heart throughout the ages. And director Wayne Wang captured some really beautiful moments of sisterhood, love, friendship and loyalty.

"Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" has a really good cast, and I must admit that I was more than pleasantly surprised to see talented Korean actresse Ji-hyun Jun starring in this movie, and she really carried the movie so well. And right up there beside her was Bingbing Li with her equally impressive performance. Put together Jun and Li really shined on the screen with amazing chemistry.

A movie is nothing with a proper soundtrack, and the music in "Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" was majestic and almost ethereal. The score for this movie was so well-composed and complimented the movie quite well.

The wardrobe, setting and scenery for "Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" was quite good, and there was a lot of nice details to be found in just about every scene.

This is a very emotional story that was quite nicely put on the screen by director Wayne Wang, and the movie does spur an interest to read Lisa See's novel to fully get every detail to this story that spans the ages.

"Snow Flower and the Secret Fan" is a beautiful movie that is well-worth watching and should be watched by anyone who enjoy the finer moments in cinema.
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3/10
Nothing like the book
jessicabearmartindale18 April 2022
Well they took an amazing book and made it boring and dull and added a modern time line for no reason. I don't recommend if you've read the novel. This is not the film you are looking for.
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Great movie about the laotong: a life- long relationship between women friends.
himelda17 August 2011
One of the key discoveries in my life is that for me and for many of my women friends, our friendship is often the most wonderful gift of life. This movie celebrates friendship among women. It relates two stories of women in China whose friendship is signed as a contract, a laotong. Laotong, the movie explains, is a life-long relationship between women, often considered more important than marriage. The movie presents two young friends in Shanghai in the 21st century who celebrate a laotong. Their friendship is portrayed with the closeness, empathy and support that is well known about friendship among women. And it also presents the difficulties and distances that are very real and perhaps unavoidable in close relationships. In a similar way, the movie presents two 19th century women who had had a laotong in very different circumstances and for whom the friendship is also both a marvelous gift and a difficult relationship. Movies are often about relations between a man and a women but seldom about women friends. That is why this movie seems to be controversial. It is not always accepted that for women their women friends are their most rewarding relationships despite the complicated faces of any human partnership. Go see the movie. It shows a side of women's life that is amazingly real but poorly understood.
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1/10
vapid, confusing, cheap sentimentality
sir_humpslot13 November 2011
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From the get go it shouldn't be surprising what this movie is going to strive for: cheap sentimentality with the schmaltzy music.

Like every other movie that tries to do the same: it just ends up being off putting when characters do nothing but brood and cry at their hardships.

The plot makes no sense except to inject additional melodrama from modern day Shanghai to draw similarities in the lives of women from 200 years ago. I just gagged at the nonsensical "ghost" images of Snow Flower in contemporary Shanghai.

I don't think anyone can actually sit through this clunking piece of time waster in one setting, as the pacing is simply atrocious. It took me about half a dozen tries over several days to get to the marathon ending - which is ironic given the run time isn't that bad.

(And I speak as somebody who can sit through the entirety of Dr.Zhivago in one setting.) In short, this is the worst kind of manipulative charlatan product tie-in that Wayne Wang has tried in awhile. I simply don't understand how he keeps making these brooding glacial book-movies; and why does the Asian-American blogs keep posting about these intellectually vapid books and movies?
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8/10
Well Worth Seeing.
HLshop26 November 2011
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Others have described the story, so i wont. I feel that both the critics and users were unfairly harsh. I almost missed this as a result, despite having enjoyed the book. Perhaps it was the low expectations. However, I think it's better than many more popular female bonding movies and did not find too sentimental. I don't get why films like Bridesmaided or the Ya Ya sisterhood are well liked. Sure they are OK,, but cover nothing new.

Both the book and the movie are trying to tug the heart strings. That accepted (and i like dark stories) they do it well and I cared about both sets of women and what happened to these women. The stories are interesting and the filming beautiful. I won't give any spoilers, but the ending was a bit too neatly tied up, especially in the modern story. I read the book and was skeptical about adding a parallel tail, but found it worked well, though not sure it was necessary. The ending was a bit too pat, especially in the modern day part. There are many worse ways to spend an evening. Give it a chance.
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2/10
Very disappointing.
paulclaassen6 July 2018
There really never is a happy moment in the film. It is sad and dramatic (maybe over-dramatic at times, especially in modern day). Slow moving with mediocre acting and dialogue in present day. I wanted to see this because Hugh Jackman stars in it, but he only appears for a few minutes...
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9/10
Simply Wonderful!
mdkersey30 September 2014
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The film weaves together two stories, one in modern China and one in Chinese antiquity. In each, two women raised together form strong friendships and pledge themselves to always support each other. As time passes these relationships are tested by tradition, marriage, love and loss.

In Chinese antiquity, some women ("laotang", or "secret sisters") would communicate by writing on the folds of fans in an obscure language, nu shu (literally, "woman's writing"). In "Snow Flower" most of their missives are poems, Listen for the poetry: you won't understand the language (almost no one, including native Chinese, can) but the rhyme, meter and sounds of the poetry enhance the narrative.

The older story also describes the binding of young girls' feet. This painful and crippling practice and other difficulties of life bind the women in these stories: mother to daughter, secret sister to secret sister, and friend to friend.

Excellent acting, beautiful music, architectural cinematography of the first order and a pace that allows you to catch the many fine details of these stories make this film an exquisite experience. I already want to watch it again.
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