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6/10
Watchable.. I guess
steven-rick-garcia11 January 2018
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This movie had a very "Lifetime" or "ABC Family" or "Freeform" type of vibe to it, though maybe a bit darker.

Very early into the movie, we all know what's going on. The one redeeming thing about this movie, in my opinion, is the antagonist Indrid. Great acting from him, although sometimes way too over the top. It's hard to believe, though, that NONE of the characters could figure out what his intentions were from some of the dialogue he has.

A few of the actors sounded like they were reading off of a script, but I guess that comes with the territory of what I'm assuming was a straight to dvd/on demand movie.

Overall, I'd say it was a watchable movie. Would I ever watch it again, or even think about it? Definitely not. But if you've got time to kill and have a Netflix account, no harm in checking it out. I don't find myself feeling like I want my time back from watching, so it's not too bad.
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4/10
And by the way, I don't even like candy cakes! **SLAM**
fewald13919 September 2019
Natural Selection isn't a good movie, but it IS entertaining. Another review related it to a Hallmark movie channel special, and the comparison is apt. Though a few curses are sprinkled throughout and the subject matter has the potential to be darker and grim, it is actually extremely tame.

Our protagonist, Tyler, who I will henceforth refer to as Mr. Vanilla, is the new kid at a school full of more-annoying-than-usual-teenagers and a security force comprising of only Anthony Michael Hall (who, unsurprisingly, is by far the best actor here and actually gives a believable solid performance). Mr. Vanilla inexplicably befriends his polar opposite, a little stinker whose parents clearly don't love him because they named him Indrid. While their friendship begins over Indrid saving Mr. Vanilla from some (foot)balls in the face (not kidding, they even refer to it as this in the movie), their connection is absolutely baffling. Mr. Vanilla is a bland drone who has some redeeming but painfully by-the-book "heroic" qualities. Contrarily, Indrid is bursting with personality. He's a beguiling character, always starting shenanigans, giving delightfully over-dramatic speeches about natural selection, and causing chaos in an otherwise bland movie. This made him by far my favorite character of the film. With the exception of one scene where Indrid is confrontational with Mr. Vanilla's mother for literally NO reason the first time they meet, his qualms with his peers are understandable and relatable for anyone who has ever lived through childhood, and the viewer begins hoping that Indrid pulls through while these other terrible kids get their comeuppance.

...Which clearly should NOT be the movie's intent, considering Indrid is the *potential* school shooter. Somehow, this movie breathed so much life into its antagonist while making every other character either bland or downright despicable that I rooted for the very person it wanted me to pity and dislike.

Natural Selection also wastes too much time sneaking a teen romance in the mix between Mr. Vanilla and Paige (AKA Little Miss Perfect, or LMP). There was little reason for this to be in the film other than to pad the run-time (director Scheifele already directed a short film by the same name in 2009, seven years before this released, so it's possible he searched for new subplots to throw in the mix). Indrid does have issues with LMP and sabotages the budding relationship every chance he gets (to which I cheered), but otherwise her contribution was minimal.

Natural Selection also suffers from some issues that many films with a lower budget suffer from. Namely sound issues (odd levels of focus between foreground and background sound during outdoor scenes, and I swore Mr. Vanilla's mother's sigh in one early scene was recorded and repeated four times in a row), odd music choices, cringy dialogue, and bad acting. Mr. Vanilla's mother was sometimes painful to watch. Mr. Vanilla himself wasn't very good, but I could see he gave a solid effort. Ryan Munzert (Indrid) looked like he was having fun and was charismatic and cynical enough to be an absolute blast to watch, but not once did I feel he was dangerous despite all the film's foreshadowing. At best, he seemed like a little stinker, but that's what made this film entertaining enough to finish. Lastly, the ending was an absolute non-ending. It was actually so bad that I remember coming across it within the last few years as a separate clip on YouTube and being absolutely underwhelmed even without seeing the movie. Well, now I have, and the ending's still bad. It's just there to supply a quick mandatory resolution and give everyone a quick happy ending (except for Little Stinker, unfortunately).

Oh...last thing. There was this really weird Christian tilt throughout the film that made me wonder if this movie was originally intended to be marketed to Christian-only audiences. Multiple times throughout the film Indrid talks about the Christian God almost as if he's angry at a deity he doesn't appear to believe in (which doesn't realistically mesh with how most atheists and/or agnostics arrive to their conclusions). There's also a Christian program with a preacher that apparently everyone watches; Indrid is shown watching and mocking it at one point, while its message is on in the background when Mr. Vanilla is preparing for a heroic moment, which felt like proselytizing with convenient timing. I'm not completely sure this was intended to beat the viewer over the head, but it was definitely noticeable.

Overall, I don't regret my time with Natural Selection. It entertained me, but not in the way I expected. Is it so-bad-it's-good? Meh. Kind of. I wouldn't recommend this over classics like The Room or Birdemic, but it certainly never bored me.
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6/10
A rising star, not given enough credit, but if we watch and if groomed by the right manager could be the Next IT person!
vanettelstarr30 July 2016
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This film wasn't that well thought out as far as the writing goes, but i do think one actor stands out in the whole cast and certainly should be at the top of all the actors lists. It certainly wasn't about the characters that filled in the gaps, it was about the pain one child held over losing his girl friend, years earlier, and how THAT pain became corrosive, over time, with no one to help him as he went down in his own sinking ship...NOT About the passive youth (supposed to be the protagonist, but lacked gusto?) And his mother (poor actress all around) who'd lost the father to suicide, years earlier. The actor by the name of Ryan Munzert deserves a lot more credit then he got on the list of actors, as his name is at the bottom, when he out acted anyone of the popular actors or what was supposed to be the main actors. He really does play an antagonist well, but I could see him being the protagonist and showing him as being passionate in that role, as well. He has the it, thing going on and is quite notable in his efforts. Watch for him. Though Kathrine Macnamera, stars in mortal instruments I.V. show, she didn't do this film much justice. Munzert was in whole different league. I suggest we watch out for this kid...IF He plays his cards right, he will work on all types of roles and wont get pigeon holed, like many good looking young men do early in their careers. Id give the over all theme a 5 and the acting about a 6.7 overall, with Munzert more than pulling his part, out, at a 7.8. I don't know why the whole "Jesus thing", was thrown in at the end, really ruined it for me...the reason for the title and the tract of the theme was not a religious argument, though some one wanted to make sure they made a point that did not fit, here? As usual someone for the religious path, has to ruin a story by making it about religion, when its just so simple; its about life. The pain left to rot inside a soul, turns sour, while pain that is dealt with and released, can be turned into something usable and can CREATE LIFE, to help others in pain, in some way. It always comes down to a choice and whether the adults in charge are willing to help the youth, around them, dump the old baggage and find purpose in their lives. Sadly it should have ended with the young man who wanted to save the boy, not leaving his side, as he fell to his death. If you want to throw religion in there, that is what love and god are about...LOVING In spite of someone doing the wrong things do to past pain.
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3/10
Not horrible, but so slow.
cb_whitewood9 June 2020
I think this does a good job of dissecting the idea of a school shooter type, but outside of building Indrid's character, everything is pretty slow, dry, and bland. This movie felt exceptionally long, and the first semi-interesting event occurs within 15 minutes of the end; left me feeling especially dissatisfied. Feels like a cheap and serious take on the Heathers.
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2/10
Hallmark Channel Movie Or After School Special?
clintstevens3 March 2018
This movie was SO predictable, I had it figured out 15 minutes into the story. The acting was OK, but unfortunately, the dialog was an embarrassment, and got progressively worse until the inane conclusion, where everything was neatly wrapped up in a tidy package. So, if you know what will happen after 15 minutes, save yourself the time you will spend watching this, and move on to something worthwhile.
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3/10
Okay i guess
babyjesus185 June 2018
I liked the message and it's relatable but kinda boring and slow. I liked Ryan Munzert character so much maybe if the other character had something more interesting like him it would've made a really good movie.
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7/10
Decent acting, script sometimes over the top, but definitely worth the watch
Catocala13 February 2017
Both the protagonist and antagonist show some decent acting. A similarity of a troubled past and a lack of love and being taken care of, make the characters struggle with their lives. How they cope with this darkness differs strongly, which makes for a great tension between the two. The antagonist shows great acting skills by not being completely demonized, yet a very manipulative and snide boy who can't stop inflicting his bitterness and nihilism onto others.

The downside of this movie is that it lays it on too thick. The overwhelming amount of dramatic past incidents is just too much to remain functional in bringing the viewer to sympathize with the characters, or even makes it incredible and unrelatable.

Not all the actors are great, but it is certainly decent enough to make it worth the watch.

The main topic of interest is what the protagonist will do with the different forces in his life that are pulling him in different directions, but thanks to the good acting of the antagonist this character is also interesting to watch, aside from the unfortunate fact that he is too easy to read because of the frequent references in the script to what he is planning to do.

Lighting and screenwork is also suited to the story; not too flashy, but directing focus the right way. Music is okay, but sometimes a bit too standard for my taste, as it sometimes reminded me of those free tunes that come with your computer.
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4/10
The new kid
bkoganbing10 August 2020
Natural Selection stars Mason Dye as the new kid in high school who has must moved to town with mother Amy Carlson. Carlson has never gotten over the breakup of her marriage and has sbstance abuse problems. Often Dye is the designated adult in the family.

Because of his home situation Dye doesn't make friends easily. One who does befriend him is Ryan Manzert who is friendly enough and acts as a protector of sorts. But is gradually revealed to be a very dark character.

Natral Selection is a well acted drama. But the pace is dreadfully slow. It's like an extended version of an after school special.
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7/10
A deep movie with an important message
jelinafck12 May 2018
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The history is deep and dark, but it's interesting and I like the message it comes with in the end, always stand up for others and tell others what u know.
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1/10
A complete waste of an hour and forty one minutes
ttyreece9630 April 2020
I'm pretty sure the other reviews with good ratings are fake. It wasn't a good movie, countless potholes, questionable actions, and over all confusing decisions. Dont watch
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9/10
A simple film with very intriguing yet dark characters
jordanludbrook17 July 2017
Overall a very good film that i thoroughly enjoyed, although a relatively simple story line that is somewhat predictable it is done in a way that is still very interesting to watch. Chad Scheifele attention to detail in his characters made both Indrid and Tyler in particular really come to life. The similarity between the protagonist and antagonist made for a dynamic that shows how a person's response can define and change their situation. The dark and twisted side of both Tyler and Indrid made the characters feel particularly relatable to the deep, dark thoughts we all hide with in. Definitely a must watch for anyone who enjoys character based stories that build the foundation for a compelling film.
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6/10
Watchable
canyongirl6022 April 2020
I think this was ultimately a Christian movie without being preachy, so have at it.
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1/10
The worst movie I've ever seen
rolandlondon26 September 2018
It's ridiculously boring, I was fast forwardind it all the time, and still didn't finish it. Don't watch it if you value your time.
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4/10
Some parts are interresting
beatlesjoerd23 May 2020
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If they had left the story just about Indrid and his mind and actions i think the movie would have been better. But due to the romance that was created between the 2 mai n cjaracters the movie falls flat.
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8/10
Two teenagers who were traumatized at childhood. They make the choice of how their scars defines them.
ajsanaje29 May 2017
I don't watch that many 'New-kid in a small town' movies, so the common premise did not eschew me (although I suspect veterans of this may still find this one is different from the lot).

Natural Selection is a movie shot with an attention to detail. From the start, every character's nuance and mannerism (e.g drawing attention to how one character empties his pockets - becomes important later on) quickly blossoms into character defining details which becomes relevant to the movie's plot. The cinematography is good. I won't overpraise it by saying I saw Mona Lisas in this, but I enjoyed it enough that the after-images of some frames is still there in my mind's eye.

A worthwhile watch, in a kickback-on-a-rainy-Sunday kind of way.
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8/10
Still waters sometimes run very deep
bob_meg29 September 2016
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I wasn't at all prepared for this home-grown, strangely moving indie from PA. I found it on DirecTV and these low-budget films are many times a real crap shoot. Two things made me give it a try: 1) An opportunity to see Anthony Michael Hall in more than a cursory walk- on role (a nicely nuanced performance) and 2) The obvious devotion that director Chad Scheifele has to this project. He made a short film of the same title 6 years ago, penned a book, and he's now made a full length feature. As a writer myself, I understand the attachment to something you've poured a lot of yourself into. Scheifele obviously thinks it's been worth the effort. It is.

Let's clear the air about a few things first. This isn't a John Hughesy movie, despite Hall's ghostly presence as a security cop on a high school campus. It's not full of a lot of slick airbrushed teen models spouting witty catch phrases (no offense; I love JH). The script is thoughtful, spare, and not afraid to use silence, which I really liked a lot. It also doesn't appear to be (and I may be wrong) one of those Christian Coalition sponsored movies that attempts to push a Christian Message down your throat. Excepting the occasional mentions of God and Jesus, it never really takes that coarse of a path.

Tyler (Mason Dye) is the new kid in town and from the start it's obvious that he's the one taking care of his mom (Amy Carlson), an alcoholic, pill-popper who couldn't find her car keys if they were glued to her face. Tyler's only other friend at school besides good- girl Paige (Katherine McNamara) is the enigmatic, hostile Indrid Wardin (nice anagram, BTW). Indrid takes Tyler under his wing in a move that at first seems altruistic, but eventually reveals more sinister undertones. It's obvious Indrid's a man on a mission and it's not one with any sort of happy ending.

While this type of plot twist is nothing new, Scheifele doesn't really villainize Indrid the way you'd expect, nor does he wreath Tyler in a golden glow. These are both troubled boys and it doesn't take a PhD to figure out why they're screwed up. Natural Selection's themes are very basic and some might say even over-simplified, but the script and performances are so unadorned that it sells itself in it's genuineness.

Ryan Munzert's Indrid is definitely the dark spark here, but Mason Dye's introverted Tyler is in a way just as intriguing, a boiling pot ready to silently explode at any moment. Scheifele's direction and his competent crew's work isn't showy and doesn't draw attention to itself, but it matches the muted mood perfectly.

There's a lot to relate to here for most people with the patience to look for it. And it's a relief to know that a labor of love, about love --- love at it's purest, basest level --- can be made and made well.
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10/10
Comedy of the year!
shihad826 September 2020
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Once I realised this was actually a comedy, it became infinitely better!

Every scene had completely ridiculous lines, actions and inconsistent motivations. Only a true comedy genius can make something like this.

It's beautifully shot. I was expecting this to be a dramatic, coming of age style movie. Most comedies are shot in high key, so you can tell it's a comedy right away. But the serious tone and flat coloring really leads you down a different path. But once you realise it's just a carefully crafted deception, and that it is a comedy, it becomes even funnier.

If you go into something with the expectation to laugh, you are waiting for the punch lines. But with this comedic genius, you're left questioning "is this meant to be funny?" Once you realise the joke, the surprise hits you even harder.
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8/10
Good...,
RosanaBotafogo20 November 2020
A little more or less story, it could have been more intense, a great idea, but not so well implemented, but the soundtrack won my heart... What was that moment of the crumpled paper with the mother's note, it forced... But the outcome it was hopeful...
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10/10
Would watch again
cott-6193820 August 2021
Great movie to giggle at with friends. The contrast of the incredibly serious subject matter (school shooting) combined with the bad acting is a perfect mix.
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Low-budget feel brings up important topics
kissestosarah29 June 2020
While this movie definitely has a low-budget feel to it based on story, character depth, and music, it still manages to send an important message to the viewers.

We need more movies that bring up the end-scene topic - which is predictable - but it needs to be done with better scripts, casting, and musical score to reach people other than the Hallmark "after dark" and similar audiences.

In total, not bad for what it is. Nice to see a movie with an actual ending for once!
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