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9/10
Damned if you do, damned if you don't
atyson22 January 2007
An exceptionally brilliant movie. But this is not for everyone. Beautifully shot in black and white, the director bravely specialises in spectacularly lengthy shots which the viewer's brain will either become absorbed by or reject for tedium. An interesting dimension which can heighten involvement in these long shots (or annoy the hell out the unconvinced) is rhythmical sound - be it cranky machinery (like the relentless mechanical pulley system outside the 'central' character's window) or people dancing to cabaret music. There is a detachment to the camera-work, particularly in the dance band sequences, which reminded me of Kubrick. Again this is an approach which will alienate many viewers but it lends a kind of philosophical power what would otherwise be mundane documentary social observation.

I watched this after the more recent Werckmeister Harmonies on the current double-disc DVD edition available in the UK which is a superb issue and has an interview with the Director as a bonus feature. Interesting to note that he states quite categorically that he intends no allegorical/symbolic element to his work.
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9/10
Kárhozat: Entrancing, Mysterious, and Inspiring
imagiking30 March 2010
The film that launched director Béla Tarr into international attention, Kárhozat is the Hungarian's first major investigation of the nature of humanity.

Trailing the exploits of alcoholic depressive Karrer, Kárhozat presents us with a view of a desolate and decrepit Hungarian town. He spends his days wandering from bar to bar, obsessing over a married lounge singer and part-time lover whom he longs to elope with. Passing off a job to collect a package to the husband, he buys himself three days alone with the object of his desires.

As is now his trademark, Tarr brings us the minimal number of shots: slow, winding, thoughtful and beautiful. His approach is simultaneously simple and complicated, showing us at the same time nothing and everything. The aesthetic of the film is astounding, beauty created wonderfully in the chaos and destruction of the landscape. The brooding intensity of the omnipresent coal trains dominates the work, an indicator of lost industry and decline. Miklós Székely leads the cast with the perfect stoic facade, his granite face holding back the weight of an emotional past and the crippling need for escape. The sinister and critical bartender gives us Karrer's true opinion of himself, one he would rather not face up to, whilst the sagacious old woman provides the film's sensibility and reason. The plot itself is not so important as the camera's journey and the character's silent ruminations, leading unavoidably to a wonderful climax and one which does exactly what it should: causes us to question our own lives and the oddity of humankind.

With beautiful, paced, unconventional direction, Tarr gives us an intimate portrait of ourselves and our world. Achieving an incredible amount with a minimalistic approach, the film is entrancing, mysterious, and inspiring. Telling us as much with his landscapes as with his characters, Tarr's Kárhozat is a testament to the brilliance of this creative juggernaut.
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8/10
Life on a dark planet
Hindinwood3 April 2008
Damnation was one of those rare instances when I felt both frustrated and fascinated by the film I was watching. Bela Tarr is SO adept at creating mood that the light sketches of plot began to feel superfluous, and I found myself wanting to brush them away and just float in this surreal sludge without trying to follow a 'story'. Tarr's use of sound design and music to create tension and a dream-like state come closer to David Lynch's than anything else I've seen. The original (I'm assuming) songs in the film also share that distinctive quality of mimicking a certain genre of familiar music, while having something that's a bit off about them - much like Badalamenti's scores. Interesting to note that Blue Velvet was released two years prior. The slowly gliding camera, which seems to have almost it's own agenda aside from the film ads to the purveying sensation of unease, and the exquisite lighting and black and white tones are breathtakingly stark. There are moments in the film when there is so much going on in the scene, and the shot is so lengthy, that the situation itself becomes real and transcends the fiction of the film. This is a very rare phenomenon in film, and was absolutely spellbinding - especially the dance scene. The middle of the film gets heavy with bleak philosophical exchanges, which would be better illustrated than told - especially with Tarr's incredible gift for mis en scene and sound design. Iconographic sequences like the slow pan past the miserable crowds waiting for the rain to stop, or the reoccurring pack of wild dogs speak volumes more of Tarr's theme than the most eloquent words. The characters are like automatons shuffling about in a purgatory from which there is no escape. It is as though the entire world was a flea-bag apartment building, a tattered old bar, and a vast field of mud and debris which one must traverse between the two.
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Village of the Damned
MacAindrais15 January 2008
Damnation (1988) ****

Although he made a number of feature films previous to Damnation, this is where Bela Tarr found his trademark style. It was also his first collaboration with novelist and country man Laszlo Krasznahorkai; a collaboration which continues to this day.

The film opens with now trademark Tarr style, watching mining carts travel along with their loads for a few minutes (yes minutes). The camera slowly pulls back to reveal Karrer (Miklós Székely) shaving. He's a lonely loser, slowly drinking himself to death at the Titanik Bar. He is in love with and sleeping with the lounge singer there (Vali Kerekes). The problem, however, is that she is married, and has made no secret of wanting to end their affair. That when he asks her why she doesn't love him, and she replies "I love you and you know it," is of no real matter to her.

Karrer is offered a smuggling job by the bar's shady owner. He decides to offer the job to the singer's husband, who has built up a substantial debt and is in danger of being imprisoned for it. He accepts, and Karrer wins himself three days to swoon the singer. She denies him, nevertheless sleeping with him in perhaps the least passionate sex scene ever filmed. A bitter Karrer decides he will turn in to the authorities her husband when he returns from his smuggling job, leaving her alone and thus making him now the logical option. By the end, the lives of Damnation's characters will be as broken and desolate as the crumbling town in which they live.

Damnation plays as love triangle, grounded out over nearly two hours. Tarr's long shots and elegantly bleak black and white photography follows ever so slowly the action. The lighting is impeccable, creating ghostly silhouettes, dusty and dim barrooms, and elegant and shimmering light bouncing of the face and hair of the lounge singer. As characteristic of Bela Tarr, the cinematography is stately and assured, breathtaking and deliberate. He films his characters and their town as assuredly and respectfully as possible. The town, and the dogs which walk its streets, hint at the apocalyptic undertones of the film, and transcends all emotions, or lack there of.

I have had reservations about Damnation in the past, confident that it was film-making at its very best, sublimely atmospheric and tonal, but unsure whether or not just how well it worked, particularly in relation to Tarr's two formidable masterpieces, Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies. Those films have something mammoth and intimidating about them: Satantango, with its titanic length, clocking in at over 7 hours, all in the same style and minimal narrative; Werckmeister Harmonies with its bizarre metaphysical underpinnings and suggestive philosophy. Those films have a ground out dreamlike – or perhaps nightmarish – quality to them, particular Werckmeister Harmonies. After my fourth of fifth viewing of Damnation, I'm now assured that it does in fact work – particularly when you avoid getting hung up on Tarr's other films. I'm also assured of its greatness. Damnation is a masterpiece of film-making. It draws parallels with the Italian realist films of the 50s and early 60s, as well as the minimalist transcendentalism of the films of Robert Bresson, but all the while invoking a dreamlike quality that keeps the viewer removed at just the right distance for a gritty but transcendent experience.
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10/10
Don't forget the humour
colin-65725 January 2013
I watch Bela Tarr's films over again with endless fascination. The length is not a problem: No longer that many pieces of music. If you can concentrate through a Wagner opera and I hope you can, then a Tarr film is not very long. All the films are very much products of team work but lead by an autocratic man who knows exactly what he wants, hence the seam free quality of the experience, It is that, rather than the length which requires the concentration. I have not found it mentioned often enough but there is much humour in his films, Karrer does a reprise of Gene Kelly, which is then itself parodied near the end of the film. Damnation is maybe still my favourite, I suppose for the mesmerising way sound is used to structure a complex web of association, but then all of the available late films has so much to offer
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10/10
Very impressive
saladin-822 November 2005
The film is about immobility. About people who abandoned themselves to a collective sinking, and dances. The camera travels slowly along the last days before apocalypse.

The photography is excellent. And the music also helps to forget the length of some scenes. Those who liked Tarkovski's films shouldn't be deluded.

The text is powerful, with its dose of irony. Unfortunately I couldn't understand everything. Some monologues seemed to be a nonsense, which may be something normal in this apocalyptic context. Anyway, I hope I'll be able one day to find some transcription; this film deserves to be studied.
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9/10
Not Everyone's Cup of Tea, But...
paul-hellyer23 April 2007
Yes, this is not for every movie goer. But it rewards those who love the art of film making. Very stylized, yes, but directed by someone who has chosen film as his medium for expresses and articulating a world view that is bleak, atheistic and unforgiving. You may not "like" this film: but as an antidote to all that is superficial, crass and commercial it is terrific. To some, it is intellectual masturbation: to those who see film as an art form, a movie to be admired, debated and savored. It will be seen by fewer than those who enter any "Blockbuster" video store on any given day- but, God help me, I would rather see this film than any other at that store.
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10/10
The overwhelming sense of the oppressed unreal...
tim-764-29185613 August 2012
A bleak sense of the unreal hangs heavy over every scene of this atmospherically oppressive black and white 'apocalyptic film-noir', from Hungarian director, Bela Tarr.

With a bar full of chatter-less men, accompanied by the odd clack from a pool table ball, a lone accordion laments. I so pictured Greta Garbo, or Marlene Dietrich half drawling, half wailing into the microphone, in another scene at the seedy Titanik Club. Known in the credits only as 'the singer', our subject is the forlorn Vali Kerekes, usually looking straggled by the rain, or just life itself, as she aimlessly - and toxically, a predatory abuser of all the men she has contact with, floats in and out of her life.

True, Tarr's unrelenting melancholic, drifting camera, wafting like the blankets of fog, black and white images that evoke an earnest socio documented photo assignment from times past, won't ever be considered essential viewing at The Samaritans. However, there is a certain dreary prose to it all, that perhaps, this is what love and life is really like - and about.

Sliding into an image, cinematographer Gabor Medivgy, meticulously composes every frame, even the most mundane. Sound is a key part to Tarr's work; a scene will almost be static, seemingly for many minutes (but actually seconds), such as the lovers embraced, naked, to the monotonous mechanical sound of the rail depot, the camera then swings so slowly round the room, to an image in the mirror of the couple now silently making love, then sweeping at the same speed to an old piano. This is simply masterful - a masterclass for all those interested in the art of film-making.

I could go on, but will say that Damnation shouldn't be anyone's introduction to World, or indeed, Hungarian cinema. It could irreparably taint your outlook for a very long time! But for those seasoned in all forms of cinema and when viewed in suitable conditions (not a sunny day, but at night or on a rainy day; perfect) it is both compelling and oddly poetically beautiful.

Compared to Bela Tarr's more well-known - and accessible 'Werckmeister Harmonies', this is more down to earth, the fantastical element has been replaced by an ugly dreary reality. So, please don't assume that because you enjoyed '...Harmonies', you necessarily will like Damnation too.
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7/10
A moment of transcendence amongst introspection
Polaris_DiB10 January 2010
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I have been meaning to get around to seeing some work by Bela Tarr for a while, considering the collective international fangasm this guy is receiving. I certainly see the attraction: Bela Tarr has learned his craft from some of the best, notably Andrei Tarkovsky, and is capable of turning every element of the landscape and setting into a character in and of itself. He is also really good at using sound editing and music to add an extra dimension to the already almost three-dimensional fluid motion of the camera, which typically tracks along a single access back and forth constantly revealing another angle. One of his best shots in this film is an exterior where an old woman approaches and cuts off the frame with an umbrella, showing that Tarr even uses props and costuming to create simple, effective compositions.

The movie follows a small community of Hungarians, especially Karrer, as they live out the misery of their stolid existence but manage, by the end, to find some form of redemption in each other--sorta. The dance sequence near the end is a real moment of transcendence, but the scenes immediately following indicate a return to hopelessness and despair. Tarr is smart and keeps the actual story completely to the visual elements, leaving the dialog to be long and exhaustive character analyses and themes about Judgement Day, et al. After all, the movie is called Damnation. Anyway, it can be distracting to follow one thread of thought in the foreground while in the background the actual story is happening, but on one hand that is sort of the point, and on the other hand the nature of Tarr's long takes are such that he is capable of revealing exactly which element you are supposed to be paying the most attention to. I particularly liked the scene where the bartender confronts Karrer about his self-involvement, as it is one of the aspects of the character that really drags the movie down.

The best praise that I can give to this movie is that I did not feel the two hour playlength, despite the long takes. I give the biggest credit to the use of sound, much background noise of which helped psychologically move the spectator into the frame of the movie. Ultimately Tarr echoes one of his own character's statements, "I love watching rain," and invites the viewer to share in the pleasure as well, as most of the movie is sort of like watching a storm through a window and allowing yourself to go into a daze.

--PolarisDiB
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10/10
How to use light in film
hlitani7 October 2004
The film demonstrates in the most eloquent manner how much colour one can

be found on black and white film emulsion. Béla Tarr and Gábor Medvigy his

cinematographer, tell the simple story in a sequence of very long shots, that are seemingly very realistic. The apparent realism in the film is spread into thin layers of detailed information in the composition of each frame, and add up to a full cinematic view on reality. Each shot tells a story, that relates not only to the characters and the plot, but mainly correspond with thoughts and ideas of a

different plot – the visual plot. The visual delivery of the plot, so it seems, is more important then the plot itself. In one shot we can see a wide lens close up, lit with meticulous attention to every hair lock on the actress' head, develop into a panning shot of a crowd in the foreground and the hero in the background (in focus!), when each of the

events is lit in a different way so the audience would be able to tell the hero from the crowd, and each character is lit to his personal lighting theme. Gábor

Medvigy uses light like Ennio Morricone uses music.
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6/10
Stunningly beautiful. And probably the most boring movie I've ever seen
jesse-846-7205036 June 2021
I'm incredibly mixed on this movie, my first by Bela Tarr. The movie is stunningly beautiful from the standpoint of the cinematography. Tarr has a very unique vision, particularly with the long, slow takes. But the takes were LONG. And SLOW. And seemingly meaningless. Midway through, I found myself thinking, "Ok, which direction is this pan shot going to go, to the right or to the left?" Because that's mostly what it was, just a long series of beautiful but painfully slow panning shots. Did I mention SLOW? I honestly felt it was the most boring movie I've ever seen. As far as the storyline...I guess there was one. But I kind of expected all the characters to kill themselves out of boredom.

And yet...I was intrigued by Tarr's vision and may have to check out his other films.
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9/10
Greta
Cosmoeticadotcom29 July 2009
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Bela Tarr became the most well known Hungarian director of films with the 1987 release of Damnation (Kárhozat). And, it's no wonder. While not an inarguably great film, it is certainly close, and a good case for its greatness can be made. More cogently, the film showed Tarr as a filmmaker who is singular, despite some manifest parallels to the work of Andrei Tarkovsky and Theo Angelopoulos. This 117 minute long black and white film, shown in a 1.66:1 aspect ratio is similar, in structure, to Tarkovsky's Stalker, and in pacing to Angelopoulos's films, although its visual imagery is straight out of the Italian Neo-Realism of the 1940s and 1950s.

The film opens with a long slow pullback from a hot of a tramway of mining buckets moving back and forth, suspended over a bleak landscape, part of a small mining town. The sounds of the mechanized drudgery set the tone for the film, and as the camera pulls back from the buckets we see that we are inside an apartment, looking out the window at them. The camera then pulls even further back and around the silhouetted of a man's head. The slow reveal moves from almost a documentary-like feel to one of utter expressionism, as it finally ends, and we see a man shaving with a razor. This break, several minutes into the film, ends a shot that is almost a mirror image of the final shot of Michelangelo Antonioni's The Passenger. Antonioni, of course, is another filmmaker that Tarr is often compared to, and without a doubt, there are also similarities. Like the Italian cinematic master, Tarr's shot is, at once, the essence of simplicity, but also complexity and duplicity, for, while we start out with what seems an objective documentary shot of an industrial landscape, suspended in mid-air, it soon morphs into what seems to be a subjective shot of a character looking hopelessly out of a definite place. But, then, as the camera pulls back behind the putative eyeline of the silhouetted figure, the shot again becomes objective and omniscient, then switches to a more conventional shot of the main character, whom we learn is called Karrer (Miklós Székely), shaving. Then, we see, as the camera, again pans behind him, how his reflected image disappears behins the imposition of the darkness Karrer's body casts, until his face is swallowed by his body's darkness.

The film is, despite its black and white, dark and sodden landscapes, amazingly beautiful. Rarely has the geography of the human mien been captured so wrenchingly, whether in the faces of the main characters, or in shots that seem to be social commentaries that underscore and play out against the main narrative, and featuring people who are never seen again. There is almost a clinical aspect to the way that Tarr pores over not only the human aspect but also the ruins of a small town. Yet, never is it technically clinical. The slow motion of camera movements away from the seeming center of the story is something that few filmmakers do. Yet Tarr does so, not only with ease, but a purposiveness that hints at the fact that the putative focus of that is just that, putative, and of no more genuine interest than a small portion of a derelicted building he turns his camera on.

Damnation is a film that achieves greatness in many moments, but sometimes does not know when its points have all been made. The slight excesses of lingerance are the only down sides to a film that is a terrific document of the human creature; one that still has relevance to its viewers, as well as its viewed.
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7/10
Where the streetdogs feel at home
frankde-jong7 May 2022
In the oeuvre of Bela Tarr ugliness is elevated to art. In this respect "Damnation" is a good example because there is a lot of ugliness in it.

Ugli landscapes. In the opening scene we see, for minutes and minutes, an industrial conveyor belt. We shall see it again and again.

Unsympathetic people. The film is about three men in love with the same woman. The woman tries to use the men to enhance her career. The men fight each other in sneaky ways.

Bad weather. In "Damnation" it rains all the time. Even in interior scenes there is water leaking from the ceiling. In this respect Tarr resembles Andrei Tarkovski, who also has the "inside shower" as a trademark.

Bela Tarr is renowned for his long takes with a slow moving, nearly static camera. When combined with monotonous music these scenes sometimes become nearly hypnotic. In "Damnation" there are two of these scenes. The first is the performance of the female singer in the nightclub "Titanik", the second one is the local dance evening.

Apart from the three men and the woman, there is also an old lady in the movie that warns the lead character multiple times. Her function in the story was not entirely clear to me.

Very clear however is the symbolism with streetdogs, who populate the streets for most of the film. They evidently feel very much at home in this ugly environment. At the end of the film the lead character even has a (temporary) transformation to (the level of) a streetdog.
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4/10
Ultimately Empty.
aklcraigc20 September 2013
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This is my second Bela Tarr movie, and I think I'm getting the idea here. The plot, what of it there is, concerns a local barfly who has become obsessed with a singer in a band which plays some of the bars he frequents, he drags the singer and her husband into some poorly defined subterfuge involving the picking up of a 'package' for some bar owner. Something goes not quite right with the scheme and the main character ends up reporting one or more of the other characters to the local police, the end. The whole thing is set in an unremittingly bleak Hungarian town where it's either raining or night (or both), once again Tarr seems to set up an interesting premise, then takes it nowhere. Every single shot is a long tracking shot, I mean, every single God dammed shot, in the end, the repetitious and unimaginative nature of the shots becomes wearing. No character development is attempted, the main character bores various other random characters to death with sub Nietzschean rants which should appeal to angst ridden teens. The movie picks up a little in the latter half with a local dance, as other reviewers have noted, little effort is made to synchronize the actions of the 'band' with the music, the locals drink and party looking like extras from a Bruegel painting. In the end, the movie simply has no emotional resonance, one is in no doubt that this is an attempt at art, but it's firmly in the 'toilet in the Tate Modern' category. All technique, no heart.
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Village of the Damned
tieman6419 November 2009
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"It's not social, it's not ontologial, it's cosmical, the s**t is cosmical!" - Tarr

The world is hell and we're all damned, mourns Bela Tarr in "Damnation", a supremely bleak film. Bouncing from irredeemable gloom to relentless despair and finally defeat, the film paints a landscape of decaying homes, perpetual thunderstorms and dog infested streets. It's characters, meanwhile, spend all their time drinking booze and dancing listlessly at local nightclubs. They seek escape and solace, but both are temporary at best, illusions at worst. There's no running from the black.

The film's key motif is a series of cable cars which run above the town, forever extracting coal from Tarr's dying mining community. Underneath this conveyor belt, this ribbon of constant motion, humanity remains immobilised, its life force slowly sucked away. While the world revolves, humanity remains in inky stasis, Tarr's characters both tethered painfully to the past and crippled by an unknowable future; tormented by memories and regrets, but scared of hoping. Nothing survives, Tarr says, you're dying the moment you're born. Why hope?

Within this sickeningly bleak world lives a man called Karrer, a balding figure who navigates earth with a death mask. He wishes all children would die, if only to end the suffering that is the human race. The only joy he finds is in the presence of a woman, a local night club singer, but we sense that his love for her is itself selfish. She seeks to escape this hell, skipping town to become a famous singer elsewhere, but he can't have that. If she escapes then it places the blame of immobility on him. Better to keep her here, anchored, in the darkness, suffocated.

Karrer's hope, then, is to reaffirm hopelessness. Indeed, nothing scares him more than children, with their bright eyes and cute faces, "because they swindle mankind into going on with this charade and condemn us all to an eternity of horror." For Karrer, who like everyone in the film speaks with apocalyptic aphorisms, existence itself should be rejected.

The film ends with Karrer selling his soul to the authorities, before stepping back out into the rain. He picks a fight with a dog – he is one of them now – before disappearing behind a mound of dung. He's trapped, dead, his body already festering...whilst high above the village the cable cars continue their slow crawl, further and further into the air, always moving, a ticker tape to nowhere.

8.5/10 – "Damnation" contains 3 excellent, powerful scenes, but its glacial pace will irk most viewers (increase the frame-rate on your DVD player). Kicked out of his university philosophy class for being too "extreme", Tarr quickly blossomed into the most suicide inducing film-maker since Antonioni. Though few have seen his films, he's been a huge influence on late career Gus Van Sant and Steven Soderbergh. His arty black and white cinematography lures us into a world of extremely long takes and extremely slow pans, the viewer beaten into submission by an aesthetic of inaction. Makes a good companion piece to "Red Desert ". Worth two viewings.
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8/10
taken on its own terms (and not necessarily the directors) this is a haunting piece of film-making (then again it might bore you to tears)
dbborroughs6 May 2009
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Bela Tarr's mediation on interpersonal relationships (and perhaps, the end of the world). In a small town a man is obsessed with a singer in a night club. She's married but doesn't completely deflect his advances. Dark brooding tale filled with long takes seems to be taking place in another world or another time (perhaps it's an after life). It's a hypnotic trip (if this clicks with you about the nature of obsession and how we view ourselves (if not it's a pretentious and tedious exercise).

I've read that director Bela Tarr insists that the film (as he insists about all his films) is a portrait of life as it is but I would be hard pressed to say that this is any sort of reality except perhaps a reality of the internal. The film's stark and beautiful black and white photography creates a world that seems forever in a mist or rain. It is a place like our own and yet different. People speak in ways that don't seem wholly normal. Verse is quoted and is the bible. No one speaks that way. Musicians play music but how they play doesn't quite match up with the music we hear. The mine carts that we see over head seem to be moving the damned to and from this place and not ore (indeed we never see either end of the line). Tarr says there is nothing allegorical or metaphoric implied or intended but I would argue that the film doesn't function as a straight narrative. Too much is off kilter, too much fails to connect for this to be real life. I'm not saying that the story of obsession, of a man doing what he feels he must to obtain the object of his desire doesn't work if it's taken as straight tale, it does, but at the same time the film becomes a battle with tedium. There becomes no reason for the film to run two hours, for the odd passages of dialog or the long takes. Frankly if the film is taken as the director intends it to be, then the film is a crashing bore and a failure on anything but a basic level. The film only works on some other level that isn't straight reporting, certainly the much used term 'apocalyptic' that I've read and heard connected to the film is inappropriate. Having been a creator of various things I know that sometimes the works we create change or become not what we intend. I understand that the creator of say a film is the one to ask what he intended but at the same time that doesn't mean what he intends is what is there on the screen. I think Tarr thinks he made one thing however I think he ended up with something else instead. I think as a film that is open to our own interpretation, being real world or not, the film is a masterpiece and a trip ripe with possibilities. I think as a straight tale of souls locked in a straight battle of possession it's a crashing bore filled with WTF moments. As something else of souls elsewhere or even inside of themselves it's a trip. See the film, take it for what it is, or what ever you take it to be and be carried away.
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9/10
Overlooking Ore Carts
PsychoDingo17 April 2012
If only there was an Academy Award for Best Use of Ore Carts, Béla Tarr would be the proud owner of an Oscar for Damnation. There is simply no other film whose depiction of ore carts holds a candle to Tarr's masterful portrayal of dozens of carts suspended on a cable, traversing the landscape and incessantly gazing down upon a small Hungarian town.

Some industry insiders say the Academy may have been convinced to create the award had the mining community rallied behind the film. But at the time, Hungarian miners thought it was more important to jump on the "revolt against the Soviets" bandwagon than to lobby for increased recognition of the mining implements so long unappreciated by the Hollywood establishment.

Naysayers claim the Academy would not have given in to public pressure, citing the animal welfare community's failed campaign in support of a proposed Oscar for Best Performance by Stray Dogs, which experts agree would have been easily won by Damnation and its motley pack of canines.

However, it is generally believed that this was not a reflection of an aversion to expanded award offerings, but a result of the powers that be buying into the notion that because Hungary was a communist country when Damnation was filmed, the dogs featured in the film were not unwanted strays, but the people's dogs, owned and loved by millions, and therefore not sufficiently disadvantaged to merit special honors.

Other proposed awards that garnered significant grass roots support include Oscars for Most Atmospheric Droning, Best Poorly Synched Music, and Original Use of Indoor Campfire, as well as a Guinness Record for Most Rain Per Minute Filmed, none of which ultimately came to be.

But of all the awards not awarded, the Oscar for Best Use of Ore Carts is the one that will stand out in people's minds when they inevitably recall the ever-vigilant unsung heroes of one of the wettest land-based films ever made. If that makes Damnation sound like an uncommon sort of movie living in its own cinematic world that most filmmakers never visit, that's because it is, and that's a good thing.
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8/10
Beautiful but frustratingly opaque film.
theskulI4211 August 2008
I look in my inbox, and there sits Damnation, a film I am amazed to discover that apparently everyone has seen but me. Apparently, since Satantango was not available for rental, most people wanted a second taste of the style shown in Werckmeister Harmonies, and this was the only one available.

The film, like Werckmeister is mostly opaque, circularly musing indirectly about Big Issues with no answers, but they keep wandering around asking. The film concerns Karrer, a heartbroken man, obsessing over memories of his former lover, who grows increasingly certain that his life, now marked by solitude and despair, has no meaning. And yes, I took that from the Netflix sleeve, because I would have been unable to give any sort of coherent summary. The thing that made Satantango as brilliant as it was to me is the fact that, despite its epic length, the film isn't too hard to figure out. It's a very grounded, straightforward tale that is not dealing with any sort of high ideals, but with the basics of life, strife and death, and because it was following mere occurrences, there was not a wasted scene, it was free to meander throughout a cast of characters, and bring out the devil in their details.

Werckmeister Harmonies is absolutely breathtaking in its visuals, but was too aloof for me, and seemed to occasionally to lack focus, with several sequences going on past their usefulness, and since I had no identification with any of the characters or their high-minded ideals, I lost interest. This same problem crops up in Damnation. I can sympathize with the plight of a heartbroken lover, but nothing in the film ever penetrated my heart. It was grim in a completely roundabout, distancing way, and so I never got inside the characters of their film.

It was sho' pretty, though.

{Grade: 7.75/10 (B/B-) / #21 (of 36) of 1988}
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8/10
Some kind of cinema: image, sound, and nothing else.
khosravim2 June 2007
Who is Bela Tarr? A filmmaker who enjoy taking log takes to torment the audience? Of course not. We can see his films and naturally, maybe, his movies become boring. In my case, when i watch the movies which takes long more than 2 hours, i need a break with no question! That movie can be one of the Harry Potters or Barry Lyndon. And of course, Bela Tarr and his own cinema has his own place in my list!

The people and critics who liked "Damnation", talked about camera work and sound designing. The movie is taken in black and withe with high-contrast images. The images are taken in deep-focus with 2-3 layers. the camera always moves softly (in Crane or tilt or pan). I think this movements are the points of the film: I was wondered why the movie does not bother me, and i found the images are not hiding things from the camera but try to find something between the layers. In a scene, we see an old woman who looks out of the frame and talks to a person. In the shot, we find two person in gangster-like clothes. They are standing by the old woman. In a second, the camera moves back and we see those were not the gangsters, they are two coats and there is a store. Or, in this case, for example, i can remind you the opening shot.

In an interview with Bela Tarr i read recently, Tarr said "I think the cinema means image". This is not a special sentence, but it guides us to find his films more interesting. Tarr's cinema without these kind of images would become like so simple films which are called Exotic films by some critics.
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7/10
A bleak and dystopian tale which is to be appreciated by some, rather than liked by anyone.
supadude200416 April 2008
Here is a movie which puts bleakness, despair, hopelessness, and the lives of those under abject poverty in a central European dystopia into focus. Honestly, I've seen Smiths' videos which were infinitely more cheery than this homage to hopelessness. The characters in this movie live in such squalor and misery one wonders whether they'd be able to even locate a blade sharp enough to do anything remotely lethal with their wrists, when their last scrap of hope is eaten by some mangy stray. It's a struggle just to preserve their very sanity from day to humdrum day, let alone maintain themselves in anything akin to comfort.

Yes, for sure, this is not a movie to cheer you up when your chips are down. The director has even said that the characters of this movie are said to include street dogs, repetitive mechanical noises, and the rain!

But all that being said, it is a movie with a most definitely crafted, albeit sombre, artistry. Acting is impeccable from all concerned (hmmm... even the stray dogs act brilliantly!). And the direction and camera work will enthuse many aficionados. The screenplay is bizarre at times yet perfectly matches the long laboured bleak settings of every single scene bar none. OK. OK... Don't let all this put you off. The movie is the very antithesis of Hollywood schmaltz and glamour. That is to say, you couldn't find a movie more far removed from any tinsel town tale. And for that alone I give it a 7/10. But it is a movie to appreciate, rather than like. And I don't just mean appreciate the work which has gone into crafting it; for it is also definitely worth watching, if only to appreciate what you have in life. But don't dare to try watching Karhozat when you're feeling the blues... oh No, sir. Oh no indeed.
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9/10
A look into the surface level of human emotions
jacobbjacob12 May 2019
In Damnation, the camera possess the Supreme Power. The camera has its own discourse, a story of its own to tell; the characters somehow fall in the way of the lens.

A look into the surface level of human emotions, Damnation holds relevance today more than ever.
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7/10
Liked it, but...
galensaysyes16 May 2002
...I think most people would be inclined to walk out. I might myself in a different mood.

If the somnambulist from "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" made a movie, it would be something like this: sloooooooow, droooooooowsy, like roaming a rainy city by night, stopping for a while in an empty, smoky bar, though it doesn't matter whether you're inside or out, sitting or walking, asleep or awake, it's all the same. If you've ever been in that state and would care to see it reproduced in a film, this is that film, but I doubt whether it means much more.

It certainly doesn't describe damnation. Sleepwalking in a mental and moral stupor makes a good metaphor for life, but surely it applies to the saved as well as the damned? This film is always stepping in and out of self-parody: we get the point of every shot and every speech in about one-sixth the time allowed; we can predict whenever a dog--the same dog?--is about to skulk into frame to cross the dreary street or the dreary waste; and the first of the lyric interludes that punctuate the story is a one-note, narcoleptic, androgynous chanson that sounds like Dietrich on Valium.

The same director's "Satantango" opens with a ten-minute shot of cows coming out of a barn in the morning and dispersing through the barnyard. The film is seven hours long. I'm not pure enough in spirit for that, but this one I can about manage.
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7/10
Black White Dream
slymn_yldz18 September 2019
Tarr from Tarkovsky School has also created a poetic work that fascinates the audience.
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4/10
Same recipe as usual with Tarr, among the filmmaker's forgettable releases Warning: Spoilers
"Kárhozat" or "Damnation" is a Hungarian Hungarian-language film from 1988, so this one has its 35th anniversary this year already, but I don't think this was really the reason why they showed this film again on the big screen. It simply happened at a movie theater linked to film history in general and they are often showing films away from the mainstream. The room was also not empty at all, approximately a quantity I expected, but also not super full. The main attraction here was the name Béla Tarr as writer and director. He was in his early 30s at that point, so still in the widest sense on the newcomer side, even if he had directed full feature films before and was already part of the film industry for a decade if we also count his early short films. This movie here was also the first occasion on which he collaborated with his co-writer László Krasznahorkai, who is 1.5 years older than Tarr or I should maybe say that Krasznahorkai often the novels wrote the novels too that Tarr's films were based on, but they also worked on the screenplay together and this includes "Werckmeister harmóniák" as well, the film that is maybe Tarr's most known and might stay this way. But they even collaborated on a 2011 film then, so their cooperation lasted for many decades. Since then, Krasznahorkai seems retired though and has not worked on anything new. You could say the he deserves the rest with the reception of all those movies that the two worked on together. I mean critics loved them and they have really high ratings on imdb and any other film side you may be looking at. The fact that you maybe will not find one of these in the highest-rated list is only because not enough people have seen and rated the movies. So it is nice that here and there they return to the big screen even and also not only in Hungary itself, but here in Germany for example too the other day where I got to watch this film.

Sounds all good and promising, doesn't it? Well, sadly I cannot keep going like that because with this film here, just like with everything else I have seen from Tarr I realized again that I just cannot find a connection to his approach. Which is extremely slow, in black-and-white and absolute not plot-focused in the sense of stuff happening. This may sound superficial, but I need more and better story. I mean if you look at Haneke's "Das weiße Band - Eine deutsche Kindergeschichte" /"The White Ribbon", that is a film I really adore and it is also super-slow, very long and in black-and-white, but with Tarr I just cannot find any appeal really. I am a bit sad it is like this because I know many really adore him, but for me he falls in the category where there is also Tarkovsky for example. Praise by critics, but does almost nothing for me. The runtime is not helping either. This one here goes on for roughly two hours or slightly shorter, which means that it is not even among Tarr's longest works and yet it felt to me as if you could fit the story into 30 or 40 minutes perhaps if we are only talking the segments that are linked to the plot and are something different than style over substance. The one thing you always find in Tarr's film's is slow camera movements throughout the entire room or also outside of course while we are watching what happens. Or if something happens at all. One example would be the football match on television that we are quickly getting away from and of course no goal happens this very short moment. These movements are frequently accompanied by music, which makes clear that Tarr's films here and there have lengthy segments without dialogues at all or where really little is spoken. I am still hesitant to call this a non-dialogue-driven approach as you can probably find more in the talking between characters here than in the non-verbal interactions between them. Said music can be pretty beautiful at times I will not deny it, but honestly I would have liked it more I think when listening to it simply on a record instead of having it accompany a film. The whale scene from Tarr's aforementioned most favorite film will always stay in my mind, there the music was downright breathtaking. For this one here, we do not have a similar moment or scene.

The lead actor is Miklós Székely B. Whatever the B. May mean and I see he is still alive. Good for him. I really cannot say anything about the cast here as I don't remember the actors from anything else, so I will leave that to the Hungarian film buffs. The female lead is played by Vali Kerekes (finally somebody without accents!) and I thought she was fairly attractive in here. I can see why the male protagonist fell for her, even if the stalking component right at the very start may be a bit much and in general it was difficult to really root for the protagonist here. But he was toyed with anyway by the female protagonist here and there as she rejects him initially, but eventually still gives in to his attempts and they have sex at least once. Problem is she is married and her husband will be back soon and the possibility of her leaving her man wo be with the protagonist was never an option here at all I must say. But it was different times anyway, especially in Eastern European countries. Divorce was still a critical issue, even if there was no love left between the two spouses. And we do not even know if this is the case here anyway. How the female protagonist really sees the male protagonist and what she feels or doesn't feel for him. There was one scene when the man is confronted by another and I assume that was her husband? At least he tells her to stay away from his girl and I suppose the man did not approach any other female in here, especially as he is really just crazy for Kerekes' character. One thing you will never find in Tarr's film is comedy of any kind. I don't think I have laughed or smiled once while watching one of his works and this film here is no difference. That does not need to be a negative thing either though, at least it is better than try-hard comedy that is not working, but of course the film still needs to deliver in other areas. There weren't many scenes here that stayed in the mind though. One is maybe when one supporting character tells the male protagonist that this woman is no good for him. But this was the exception. Tarr's works being mostly (more than merely) a bit on the depressing side is not an issue for me either as I do love some films that take this approach. A they let me really feel something, which is honestly the most important thing about a film I would say. No matter if it is joy, despair or regret or whatever else. Anything is better than indifference, but I did not really feel anything with this one.

I often do when there's animals involved in movies, but the (whale from another film and) the dog from this film that was out there in the rainy cold fighting for survival every day did not have as much of an impact on me as I would have liked it t have. I guess it was also meant as some kind of build-up to the final scene in which the main character is depicted as some kind of equivalent to the stray dog and they are growling at each other and he also howls like a dog a little earlier, so yeah he is depicted there really at the bottom as low as it gets when the chance at further romantic interest coming his way from the female lead has passed. That's how I would interpret it at least, so you can say that, even if it is on a low scale overall, Tarr ended the film on one of its highest notes in terms of how memorable the scene was. I am sure people who appreciate Tarr and his works more than I do will see a lot more/different in this scene and also in many other scenes throughout the movie. A lot of it may be linked to the amount of water you often see in Tarr's films and with the heavy rain here on many occasions, especially towards the end where it is pouring in a really loud fashion in terms of sound effects, this is certainly also the case for this film we have here. There is also the brief depiction of a river or pond towards the end. But these inclusions also could not turn this film into something I enjoyed watching. No chance for a positive recommendation from my side for this film that is probably not among Tarr's most or least famous works. Somewhere in the middle. I give it a thumbs-down. Watch something else instead or I assume you can decide this very well for yourself then too as you have probably seen another film from him already (or more than one) when you get here to decide if you should see this one too. If you (dis)like one, you will probably (dis)like all. The style is just so similar every time. For me, it is a no though and I am pretty convinced that I will not watch this one ever again, more likely one or several of the Tarr films I have not given a chance yet. Not looking particularly forward though. That is all.
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The self who sees obscures the view
chaos-rampant21 February 2013
Okay, so my ongoing project is that I'm seeking out films where as you watch the self who sees comes into focus. The most clear and direct way is with slow filmmakers like Tarr and others, though it's a lost game if you let them simply numb you. Others like Greenaway, Lynch and Ruiz will do it by tricking you into invented realities, another boat down the same river.

Usually there's some impatience, a trying to figure things out, a disorientation is central among these filmmakers as the first step. As you quiet down that impatient self, and films of this sort help, things become clearer, unusual insights appear. But it also helps to see past the filmmaker, most of the time he imposes on his created world by trying to explain (usually through a surrogate self) some part of it, reducing.

Also clear, in this case it's the protagonist philosophizing on meaningless life, impossible salvation and the ruin of having to be, dreary stuff. Because he is the protagonist, we think some of it will shed some light. But that's just who Tarr is, gloomy, wondering. I don't doubt his sincere despair. But what's the use? Rest there and he'll suffocate you, stain you without cleansing.

Anyway, discard all that, and it can be a different experience. It's a worthy film beneath the mud.

It's a simple story, a schmuck is contracted to smuggle in a parcel, we can assume by the secrecy that it's some shady deal. In turn he contracts the husband of a woman he's having an affair with—a sexy torch singer. As the husband goes away, we go on to visit disconnected stops in this affair, this is what gives the film its dreamlike air. So that's the story.

More interesting is the world behind it. Your clue is a recurring visual motif introduced with just the first shot—a hazy view of something, and pan to reveal someone watching, an intermediate self between you and things. He IS constantly obscuring the view by thinking what it's about. The second time it's like in a film noir, it's raining, a man is watching a bar. Inside the bar, we are seduced by the femme fatale's smoky song, maybe it's all a nightmare as the lyrics say.

It's a wonderful scene that sets everything else up.

So as per noir rules, desire fools with the schmuck's sense of reality and we have the rest of the film as hazy perturbation. He has done something wrong and knows it, sending the husband away. The third time the watcher motif appears, the woman is not looking out to life through the blinds, but inside the room, her gaze cramped by walls of his desire —the scene plays out with sex, mirrored in a mirror reinforcing inversed reality.

So the affair grows stale—and lo, we have his endless monologues rationalizing frustration by directing it to the world, the world as punishment. And that as profundity that distracts.

So who is obscuring the view?

It's that intermediate self who instead of seeing, fidgets for more story and answers that preferably make some sense. It's your own self, fidgeting for more story when you watch a film like this.

Isn't this something that actually happens? As you watch these ultra slow films, which is why they can help, doesn't your own fidgety self distract you by aimless thinking? Isn't that self getting in the way of what is potentially there for you? Imagine if Tarr acknowledged the fact in his narration, for instance like Nabokov does with self-deprecating layered humor—it'd be an astounding film.

Tarr has set up other cool things, the husband knowing something is wrong as our guy's guilt, an older woman (his woman) suggesting peace in the dance together. But there are moments like when she quotes the Bible and the inane end with the dog, which muddle what it is about. Tarr was probably unsure himself, the interested part of him doing the noir abstraction, another part of him venting.

But the scene at the bar, her song as noir hallucination. The architecture and roaming camera as in Marienbad. And all of it submerged as different levels of watching. I'd like to think Lynch saw this, and immediately knew which parts worked. Tarr is probably still unsure.
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