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6/10
WARNING: Nuts
garethcrook29 December 2022
I'm not sure how I got here, probably it being a Peter Strickland film. Who doesn't love that unnerving grainy tone he delivers. This though might push even me a little too far. It's weird. Obviously. The setting is the Sonic Catering Institute. A artistic workspace where a collective have gathered to work with a crank call receiving, pompously controlling, increasingly bizarrely dressed resident director and a somewhat submissive writer, photographer, documentarian with some gastric issues. It's not easy to nail down quite what everyone's purpose is. There's a lot of pretension. A lot of awkwardness. Nobody seems to like one another all that much as they do workshops, endure nightly dinners and sleep in grotty dorms. The collective in residency, made up of Elle, Billy (Asa Butterfield) and Lamina are an art troupe band. Using food as a device for performance art. It's as much about the sound though, with sound sources wired up through vats, pots and blenders, as Elle in the first performance writhes naked in what looks like blood. This is one of the more palatable expressions. I'd like to say it's interesting, well acted. That the narrative is compelling and the characters engaging. None of that is true. What I can say is I like slightly confounding art house indulgence and this ticks that box. It looks good too. Not every frame by any means, but there are several arresting scenes that grab your senses. A Strickland film is rarely an easy watch. He's a director intent on challenge and you'll have to work to enjoy this. If you like something that makes your brain wonder and whirl at what you're watching and why you're watching it though, then Flux Gourmet is worth a taste.
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7/10
An Absolute Mad Man
blakestachel27 June 2022
Peter Strickland is a mad man. If you are familiar with his work you'll know what I mean. His nuanced brand of vivid absurdism seems to have a tangible scent and taste to it, where every aspect is designed as sensory overload. This makes him a unique talent despite his overt influences - influences that stretch from giallo art house horror to early Lanthimos (even borrowing one of the Greek auteurs' main players, Ariane Labed for this latest effort). Velvet and satin textures dripping in ebullient color are the fetishistic clues that bring the viewer in on the subtle, often impenetrable themes that are at play. In the case of Flux Gourmet, what is most crucial is the investigation of psychological kinks which stoke the fires for artistic expression. Cronenberg also recently had something to say on the matter, only he used the body as an artistic vessel instead of the mind and its perversions. Though I admire Strickland's wicked little plots, I so frequently notice the fingerprints of others, plastered all over their shells, to where I have trouble appreciating them as original entities. Fortunately, there's always a certain aesthetic and thematic freshness exuding from the cinematography and writing that prevent them from becoming derivative.
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5/10
The Flux Gourmet dilemma.
gregoryno69 July 2022
Is Flux Gourmet a very dry straight faced joke about pretentious modern art?

Or is it a perfect example of pretentious modern art?

I'm tending towards the latter.

Recommended if you want a movie that takes the idea behind the baked beans scene in Blazing Saddles and stretches it to feature length. Otherwise, if you really must watch a Peter Strickland movie, find The Duke of Burgundy instead.
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7/10
Peculiar & Inventive
JoshuaMercott6 August 2022
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ASMR vibes and weird culinary themes pervaded this movie from start to finish - or rather, prep to performance. It was an interesting, though at times unnerving, exploration of food and our connection to it as humans.

As both director and writer, Peter Strickland did amazing work on this production. Tim Sidell's cinematography was crisp. Matyas Fekete's editing was quite good. Saffron Cullane's costume design was to-the-point. Hair-makeup, musical scoring, sound effects, and production design were all quite good.

Jan Stevens, played by Gwendoline Christie, was outstanding. Dr. Glock, played by Richard Bremmer, was great. Billy Rubin, played by Asa Butterfield, was good. Elle di Elle, played by Fatma Mohamed, was amazing. Stones, played by Makis Papadimitriou, was great. Lamina Propria, played by Ariane Labed, was quite good.

The concept of 'Sonic Catering' that was used in the movie was intriguing, to say the least. They weren't shy to expose the sickening side of things either. Eccentric sequences and disgusting ones together served to remind me that being human is not always perfect, let alone blemish-free.

As "Flux Gourmet" progressed it became, in my opinion, a curious, captivating, and diabolically under-rated title. They included visceral and explicit themes as well - not too out of place in a script like this. Catering and craziness mingled and boiled over into an eclectic script that boasted an engaging directorial spin rife with subtext.

I went into the movie during a spot of free time and left with a strange and misplaced need to know more. This story had a way with my senses that can best be called provocative. To say I had mixed feelings about "Flux Gourmet" would be putting it mildly. That, in itself, was a testament to its 'power of film'.
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4/10
There's a dividing line between weird and incoherent
Lomax3436 October 2022
And this film comes down on the wrong side.

I'm OK with weird. I loved Strickland's In Fabric, and was hoping for something equally interesting. Unfortunately, he seems to have thought "I've already turned it up to eleven; what if I turn it up to thirteen?"

The plot, such as it is, revolves around a group of performance artists who indulge in sonic cookery, and who are granted a residence by someone who is as unhinged as they are (in case we miss this, her deranged nature is hammered home by her bizarre headwear. Especially in bed). There's also a sub-plot about flatulence (these may be the most sophisticated fart-gags ever committed to film, but they're still fart-gags) and a rectal examination that also turns into performance art.

Terrapins, a box with knobs on, a rather icky seduction, pretentious references to ancient Greek literature, latex cat-suits (everyone always travels with these, in case they need to indulge in a little burglary, don't they?)

The resultant mish-mash leaves one confused and deeply unsatisfied.

And I would've throttled the doctor MUCH earlier.
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7/10
Influx.
DoorsofDylan12 October 2022
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Being aware of (but having not seen any) of his films for years,I was excited to learn that the HOME cinema in Manchester were presenting Peter Strickland's latest work.

Ordering,and watching The Duke of Burgundy and In Fabric (both also reviewed),I excitedly got ready to discover what Strickland has cooked up.

View on the film:

Discussing during the Q&A that he had actually gotten the idea for this film before In Fabric was made, (and that he did not write the script in mind as a expansion of that earlier movie) writer/ directing auteur Peter Strickland (an extremely classy guy,who hung round chatting to fans after the screening, making sure everyone got what they wanted signed, which included signing a poster for me) decides in his screenplay to go towards the more abstract, surrealist direction which In Fabric had started drifting towards.

Strickland serves up tantalizing comedic, absurdist dining set-pieces inside a remote artistic institution, which slice into the vindictive power struggles behind the facade of the discreet charms of the bourgeoisie.

Filmed in just 14 days, and revealed during the Q&A being inspired by The Sonic Catering Band (of which he is a member of) director Strickland & cinematographer Tim Sidell (who was second unit cinematographer on Berberian Sound Studio-also reviewed) continue to wonderfully expand on Strickland's textured motif, with gliding panning shots over cooking table, (with the residences in the institution including to sweet performances from Gwendoline Christie and Fatma Mohamed, both regular collaborators of Strickland) that get chopped into deep, bursting with colour grotesque close-ups of guests partaking in the finger food grilled on music, as they eat up the flux gourmet.
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4/10
Flux Gourmet
BandSAboutMovies12 September 2022
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Peter Strickland also made Berberian Sound Studio, The Duke of Burgundy and In Fabric, so I always look forward to what he does next. Even if I don't completely like it, I know that it'll definitely be interesting.

Since the 90s, Strickland has been part of the Sonic Catering Band, which creates music from the sounds of cooking, so it's already piquing my interest when this movie is set at Sonic Catering Institute. Run by Jan Stevens (Gwendoline Christie), it's the setting of this film and where a trio made up of Lamina Propria (Ariane Labed), Billy Rubin (Asa Butterfield) and Elle di Elle (Fatma Mohamed) is in the middle of a series of concerts that combine food and sound creation.

They've added another member for the three-week stint, a writer named Stones (Makis Papadimitriou). The great food within the center has left him with both indigestion and gas, so he visits Dr. Glock (Richard Bremmer) who warns him that he may have a life-ending bowel condition.

Have you ever watched a nude woman dance while pigs are slaughtered and chefs cook behind her? Well, get ready. And at the end of each show, the group has an audience tribute which is basically an orgy that only adds to the issues between Elle di Elle's group, who have all been her lovers at one time. There's also a rival group called Mangrove Snacks who are trying to sabotage everything.

Flux Gourmet is a strange film. I'm certain that a ton of people who watch it on Shudder will hate it because it's not really horror. It's...something. Where Strickland has made a giallo, Eurohorror and a British 70s horror movie, now he's making a film about the inherent silliness of art movements. I didn't exactly love it but I didn't hate it - kind of like a high end meal where I definitely enjoyed the flavor but stopped at a convenience store to get a roller hot dog on the way home.
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8/10
So Stupid...So Funny
pebsdad6 July 2022
A spoof of performance art and foodies (crossed up) and totally hilarious. The actors play it straight which, unlike Christopher Short's films, made it even more funny to me. There were so many little things that made me giggle...their obsession with a flanger, the OTHER collective (and their name) and the way they stealth around, the patron's head wear, their confessions and dialogues with a flatulent writer and the silly French names for odd foods (that I don't know if they are real or not). Clearly the other reviewers who rated the film didn't get it or were expecting something else but I thought it was just grand.
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7/10
Predictably Weird...
derek-duerden1 December 2022
... but not in a predictable manner!

I've still not seen Berberian Sound Studio, but enjoyed Duke of Burgundy and In Fabric, so I was ready for this to be odd, and up there in the "quite like Greenaway" stakes.. As with him, the cinematography is good, and the actor commitment is mostly fine. I really could have done without the flatulent guy though... the sub-plot itself, the voiceover with matching hard-to-read subtitles (white on often-white scenes) and the actor himself were all irritating, IMHO.

Having said that, there's lots to like if you're into arthouse stuff and I'll look forward to whatever he does next...

Worth a look.
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3/10
Joke Grows Stale
actaction9 July 2022
The oddity of the pace and concept wares off about an hour in and feels like it marches on forever without much of a progress or change. Too much repetition, gags go on far too long & at six cycles with little new to add it feels like a bad sketch that drug on too long.
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10/10
Peter Strickland does it again!
kennethdower28 August 2022
Strickland never ceases to amaze, and his latest film, Flux Gourmet, does not disappoint. For all the ninnies crying it's "not horror" or "not a comedy", you need to not be so horribly rigid in your thinking, and stop with the low ratings because the film didn't meet your unrealistic expectations. Strickland is a unique filmmaker and his work is definitely not conventional.

Flux Gourmet is actually quite hilarious and highly entertaining. I've seen it twice already and will happily watch it again. The acting and the cinematography are all superb, and of course the soundtrack is fascinating as well. If this if your first Strickland film experience, then do check out his other work. Have fun!!!
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6/10
Flux Gourmet
CinemaSerf20 October 2022
Bizarre! I think that is the only word I can use to describe this peculiar piece of cinema. This quirkiest of stories is set in a school run by the pristinely attired "Jan Stevens" (Gwendoline Christie). Every year she invites a group to her exclusive school where they use a mix of actual ingredients as well as audio equipment and cooking techniques to create what I think they describe as an "alimentary performance". Nope - I didn't know what was going on either, but as this curious story develops we discover that this is only the half of it. The group of noise-makers is led by "Lamina" (Ariana Labed) with "Elle"(Fatma Mohamed) and the hugely fringed "Billy" (Asa Butterfield) and soon it becomes clear that the former has history with their host and the latter ends up sharing her bed... Nope, I still didn't really know what was supposed to be happening - especially when some device they were using on the sound mix was mysteriously kidnapped, only to end up in an exhibition jar in a bedroom from where they try to retrieve it. Add to this, another group who applied but did not win entry to the institution are trying to assassinate "Miss Stevens" and the whole thing becomes and remains odd. Surreal - even. Entertaining in spurts, yes - the characterisations once laid bare can be amusing but I found it too long. The eccentricities of the characters and the plot became too zany for me and by the end I was no longer entertained, but rather I felt disappointed. I will admit I am not great with films that leave all sense of reality at the front door - which this most certainly does, but I didn't hate it. Perhaps another watch on television might enlighten me further, but I cannot in all honesty recommend it to anyone unless you have an on/off relationship with this planet!
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4/10
Blech
evanston_dad21 December 2022
"Weird" at the service of a higher cause I can roll with. "Weird" as a stand alone aesthetic usually leaves me cold.

"Flux Gourmet" is a gross and -- for me at least -- an even somewhat incomprehensible film about performance artists. I don't even know -- is "food sound art" even a thing, or was it meant to be a joke? Somewhere in this film is a satire about pretentious people, but it's buried under an off-putting preoccupation with the workings of human bowel systems. I've had a colonoscopy. I don't need to relive someone else's.

This is the kind of movie whose advertising features pull quotes from critics using words like "uproarious" and calling it equal parts brilliant horror and scathing comedy. I must have been watching an entirely different movie.

The best I can say about "Flux Gourmet" is that it has a bold and confident vision, and the director is clearly committed to it. But that's really part of the problem.

Grade: C-
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6/10
Flux Gourmet
M0n0_bogdan22 February 2023
I wondered for a moment if I need to take this seriously. But no, this is Peter Stricklands parody to what Cronenberg did with Crimes of the Future...and other performance artists that take their art to a ridiculous, pretentious height. Making food, stimulating the senses, the taste and the smell, stimulating the gastrointestinal tract...is the new sex. Also, the performance art bits should have been comedy gold but they took the absurdity of it too seriously and you kinda went along...

Unfortunately, it's not such a great parody either. It's still too niche even if it should have worked since everybody eats and has bowel movements. It's still not accessible enough and it doesn't go all out with the parody aspect. Even though I think it should have.

Ha, his name is Billy Rubin! Haha. Okey.
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1/10
Fart without art is just "pffft"
nemanjab99310 September 2022
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Given that this movie is a perfect example of over-pretentious modern "art", I find the flatulence issue Stones has a highlight of this movie's plot line (if you can say that this even has a plot). This is like some kind of cheap travesty of Yorgos Lanthimos' style of writing/directing. For several times I thought: Wow, they are really trying to do The Lobster here, huh. I mean c'mon, Ariane Labed is here for Pete's sake.

Take the money you would spend on the ticket and go buy some coffee...it will help you with digestion.

Or just go and watch the paint dry for 2hrs. Anything beats spending time on this.
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3/10
Waiter, there's something wrong with my movie...
alandavidmckenzie21 December 2022
This is perhaps the craziest and most incoherent piece of cinema I have ever watched. My first instinct is to recommend watching this movie on some kind or narcotic or psychedelic, but in forethought this movie almost convinced me I was already on one.

At first I thought it was just me, and that as a Canadian I didn't understand the humor. That maybe it was taylored for a British audience or something? But I've watched faulty towers, Mr. Bean, The Office and so forth... and that's not it.

The longer you watch, the less funny it gets. I can endure and even find some toilet humor funny, but this film was obsessed with repeating the same mindless jokes over and over again... and I must confess I couldn't make it to the very end. I had to turn it off before I developed a serious headache.

If you want to go on the wildest confusing and messed up ride of your life, skip the Iowaska and magic mushrooms and watch this.
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9/10
Characteristically bizarre and often very, very funny
dr_clarke_226 December 2022
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2022's Flux Gourmet is writer-director Peter Strickland's fifth film, and is typically weird and macabre. Revolving around an artistic collective of "sonic caterers" housed in a remote institute, and the journalist sent to document their work, it is characteristically bizarre and often very, very funny.

The film sees Strickland revisit a few themes from Berberian Sound Studio, as the three members of the collective make truly unpleasant noises using food, specifically vegetable-based food. Appropriately, the strange but highly effective soundtrack is provided by the Sonic Catering Band, of which Strickland is a founding member, and whose work is as interesting as anything in the film. The three members of the group largely dislike each other, and are also at odds with Jan Stevens, the founder and owner of the retreat, who allowed them to stay and present their work to appreciative audiences, whose members reward performances with backstage sexual orgies. Sent to photograph their performances is Stones, a flatulent journalist beset by reflux and halitosis, whose neurotic writing - translated into English via subtitles - is as preoccupied with his gastrointestinal problems as they are about what he witnesses in the collective's performances.

Flux Gourmet is intentionally absurd, somehow coherent in its own warped internal logic, and often laugh-out loud funny, thanks to what possibly uniquely might be termed deadpan toilet humour. Many of Stones' funniest lines concerning his bowel-related discomfort, and he eventually agrees - with extreme reluctance - to undergo a colonoscopy not only in front of the members of the collective, but in front of an audience. When he eventually gets a diagnosis from the deranged, eccentric, cantankerous, classicist Dr Glock, whose habit of delaying his prognoses and diagnoses is hilarious, it turns out to be the diet changing Coeliac's disease (because of course, what else would it be in this film?), one which causes him to ruminate on the social reaction he receives by demanding a gluten-free diet. Meanwhile, the retreat is occasionally terrorised by rejected artistic group the Mangrove Snakes, who throw a beheaded terrapin through the window during dinner; Jan Stevens reveals that she rejected their application for a residency because she doesn't like what they do with terrapins.

Fans of Strickland's unique vision will be delighted by what he serves up here: it intentionally sounds revolting, but looks gorgeous, except of course for Elle's "scatological" performance, which is truly disgusting, even if she cheats by using just chocolate mousse. Cinematographer Tim Sidell is clearly on board with Strickland's uniquely bizarre vision: close-ups demand focused performances by the cast members; wide-angle shots capture the characters' unusual art. And the cast embraces the spirit of the piece wholeheartedly: Fatma Mohamed - who has appeared in all of Strickland's films to date - is magnificently venomous as the diva Elle di Elle, whilst Makis Papadimitriou channels neurosis as Stones. Richard Bremmer - who appeared in In Fabric - is perfectly cast as the misanthropic, intellectual snob Dr Glock, Asa Butterfield, Gwendoline Christie and Ariane Labed are equally convincing as egg-fetishist Billy Rubin, the emotionally volatile Jan Stevens, and the troubled Lamina Propria.

For a film in which the plot is essentially ludicrous and the characters are grotesque caricatures, Flux Gourmet ends on an oddly affirmative note: symbolically, when Elle is shot (but not killed) by a sniper, the remaining members of the Collective introduce meat to their performance, whilst Stones - his alimentary troubles if not quite resolved then at least identified and manageable - realises that he is finally part of something. Fans of Strickland will be left hungry for whatever he cooks up next.
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3/10
not peter stricklands best .
davejam-4982128 June 2022
Peter strickland is a unique director but this is a strange and at times disgusting film. Its charachters are mainly unlikeable but perhaps thats meant to be the case . Largely disappointing.
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10/10
Strange, dark, brilliant.
eronraines20 July 2022
You've got to be willing to be taken for a ride to enjoy this. It's a very conversational, very strange film. I think it's brilliant. I imagine it will make most folks uncomfortable.
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5/10
'A Sort Of Strange Indie Horror' "Flux Gourmet" written by Gregory Mann
gregorymannpress-7476227 March 2022
A sonic collective who can't decide on a name takes up a residency at an institute devoted to culinary and alimentary performance. The members Elle di Elle (Fatma Mohamed), Billy Rubin (Asa Butterfield) and Lamina Propria (Ariane Labed) are caught up in their own power struggles, only their dysfunctional dynamic is furthermore exacerbated when they've to answer to the institute's head, Jan Stevens (Gwendoline Christie). With the various rivalries unfolding, Stones, the Institute's 'dossierge' has to privately endure increasingly fraught stomach problems whilst documenting the collective's activities. Upon hearing of Stones's visits to the gastroenterologist, Dr Glock (Richard Bremmer), Elle coerces him into her performances in a desperate bid for authenticity. The reluctant Stones (Makis Papadimitriou) uts up with the collective's plans to use his condition for their art whilst Jan Stevens goes to war with Elle over creative differences.

"Flux Gourmet" originally started as a satire on artists and their complex relationship with the institutes that fund their work. To remain neutral and look at both perspectives offering both sympathy and ridicule. Whilst exploring the month-long residency of an art collective that deal with food, the film is interested in the idea of taboo and shock value in art, which in this context opened up the dark side of the stomach and the bowels. This eventually led to the story of a man in the institute suffering from very private and embarrassing stomach problems, the kind of problems many people suffer from, but are sometimes too embarrassed to mention even to a doctor. We've often feel frustrated with cinema's ignorance of allergies and intolerances, which are often portrayed as comedy, particularly when someone's face swells up from anaphylactic shock.

Though there are no allergies or anaphylactic shock in "Flux Gourmet", the film treats stomach problems responsibly, whilst still pushing the boundaries of taste wants to explore coeliac disease for 'Flux Gourmet' and treat all the symptoms methodically. At first, with all the mention of flatulence, the audience might think this is a comedy, but we soon realise that this is serious and we never hear a single fart throughout the film. All the deeply embarrassing problems are never shown. We only hear the character mention them in solemn voice-over, yet there's humour elsewhere with the gender and creative conflicts between band members and the institute. It's clear by the end of the film that having coeliac disease is not the end of the world for the character and people can easily adapt to it, that audiences will understand the disease more instead of thinking it's a 'fad' and thinking a coeliac sufferer won't have any stomach problems if he or she eats gluten.

Also, a lot of emphasis is on the fear prior to diagnosis. The influences for 'Flux Gourmet' are Robert Bresson's films with his solemn and almost religious voice-overs, Rob Reiner's 'Spinal Tap' for the rock n' roll clichés, the Viennese Aktionists for the corporeal shock value and Marcel Marceau for his mime work. The time and place are not specified in order to enhance the film's dream-like nature. Ultimately, through the use of performance art and avant-garde music, the film reveals a very human story about problems that people are often too embarrassed to talk about, but many of us can relate to regardless of how healthy or unhealthy our stomachs are. Within the seriousness, the film also presents a somewhat silly world exploring.creative conflict, rejection, power and the dilemmas facing both artists and their patrons.

Written by Gregory Mann.
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2/10
Too absurd. Go watch something else.
sionnach-liath12 October 2022
This film is too absurd. The concept is ridiculous. The story is farcical.

It beggars belief that groups would contend to go to this academy of the absurd.

I am sure there are many who will enjoy this but it is not my idea of fun or intellectual stimulation.

The Coeliac diagnosis and 'cure' were ridiculously absurd in the timeline.

The introduction of a ridiculous 'part'to change the sound profile was absurd. The fact that there are sponsors for such competitions is absurd. The fact that an endoscopy could feature as part of a gourmet experience is extremely absurd.

Maybe that is what the director intended. It all bypassed me.
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1/10
Ridiculous
theotetm10 December 2022
It's pretentious, with a lame script that doesn't belong in any cinematic genre.

The poor actors are trying their best, cognitively, to create an atmosphere for which they obviously had no clear guidance.

There are great films in the style the director is trying to copy, unfortunately it lacks the depth to pull it off, resulting in a boring, dull, superficial little film.

He uses clichéd tricks in an attempt to shock the viewer and pretend to have an opinion.

Unfortunately, in the use of the means of expression, as all fine arts are, it is not enough to state or imply that you have an opinion, you must also be able to articulate it.
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10/10
Salo meets Celebrity Bake-Off
lordcorneliusplum2 March 2023
Yes, its strange. No, its not a horror comedy, at least not the sort most people mean when they use that term. It is funny, though, and pretty horrific. A brilliant and witty send up of avant-garde performance art, 70s Euro art films, the music business, 80s fashionistas and food snobbery.

It reminded me of Bunuel as it skewers and roasts bourgeois "culture" and (f)art. I've enjoyed all of Strickland's films that ive seen, and they all have humor in them, but this is easily the funniest.

Many reviewers on here seem to hate this because it makes no logical sense, doesn't explain things in wordy exposition and is improbable. I sometimes wonder just what it is people expect from cinema, and from films like this. Pretentious ? Sure it is, what creative endeavor worth your time isn't ? Do people really want their culture served up to them in easily digested pre-chewed lumps? Oh, i guess they do. Flux Gourmet, indeed.
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1/10
Not funny, not scary.
Dodge-Zombie26 June 2022
For a movie that's listed as Horror, Comedy and drama it really isn't.

Art house nonsense is what it actually is.

I'm sure it will also get the listing of "understated" or "slow burn".

All these terms really mean is boring.

Dismissed.
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8/10
A few questions
bretttaylor-040222 February 2023
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Is this Culinary sound art a real thing?

Is this a Satire on pretentious performance art?

If it is does that make it pretentious itself?

This is so challenging to watch. It's very strange but at the same time visually interesting.

A group of Culinary performance artists stay at a house or school or something dedicated to this type of art.

Then the Woman funding the operation wants them to remove a sound from their performance and is refused by the groups leader. She tries to get her own way by first manipulating the guy in the group and then by classing it as evidence because at the same time a rejected group who missed out on funding keep attacking the house with Terrapins.

Also the reporter following the group has flatulence and they start to incorporate his medical examinations into their act.

I think that's the plot.

I sort of want to watch it again.

The main characters are very good i thought and believable and i actually bought the whole thing.
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