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9/10
The middle game: all the gambits in motion
ShippersAreEvil25 August 2023
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The Queen's Gambit declined - or at least the wannabe Queens. Sareth learned a lesson about when not to make your move and her lack of experience in the face of Demerzel is exposed. But she still has pieces on the board;

The Knights Gambit rebuffed: Hober tries to tempt the Spacers with freedom and is rebuffed and dobbed into Bel. But I can't help feeling that dangling the non-Spacer jump ships in front of Bel was actually the point;

Meanwhile, the rooks and the prawns ('cos who can resist a good fish gag?) on Ignus is a rather slower game that I suspect has more to do with the next season than this. But I don't think all that we see is as it really is;

The Bishop's Gambit countered? Empire thinks he has out-thought Seldon - but if Hari is right that the maths doesn't lie (absent the odd sterile halfling), then Empire drawn out to face the Foundation is what he expects.

But does it end in fire, or ice cold execution?

Plus, Three laws explicitly called out. Now there's a carrot.

Can't wait for what comes next.
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7/10
If only for the suspense
mi_imdb_account27 August 2023
A space opera, segmented like an orange, a bit of citrus acidity to sharpen the edge. And of course there is an associate producer with an Asimov surname. But there is little point in calling it Foundation if you get to the point of ripping it's foundations apart. Yes pun intended.

Most books don't transcribe to the moving image without treatment for continuity, action, imagery etc. So changes are usually necessary - no need to stir up the NTB groups with trivial comments either.

But there is a structure to the overall plot that requires the Second Foundation mentalics as a counterpoint to the materialistic First Foundation. It's a big risk to insert a different story line where a secondary planet with a mentalic leader who has less scruples than the future Mule threatens the Prime Radiant and psychohistory more drastically than Seldon ever comprehended.... Or did he???

So one guess is a rearguard reaction as Gaal's daughter Salvor loses consciousness in the water & the connection with Gaal - somehow this produces a confrontation with Tellem and some resolution of the storyline. - perhaps a synthesis of a differing evolution of the second foundation out of this messy diversion?

Every diversion and subplot has been inserted to create an ongoing suspense, but will the story actually coalesce into a cohesive point that has some connection with the premise of Foundation and it's essential elements.
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10/10
The perfect Segway to end of season 2
praju-7225627 August 2023
This episode seem to bring all the pieces into place. It felt like it was going to push us towards the ending that we've been waiting for since season One.

This build up is the most important reasons why season One did not click with the audience that much, because we didn't feel like it was a completed ending.

This seems like it is setting up well to finish strong.

I clearly like how the empire and foundation are mix and matching. The actors playing Empire is really good, especially the one playing day.

The concept of it all seems she well executed.

O wonder what was the missing pieces of information in all the cleans and if Demrezel is actually trimming the knowledge so that we get to a point where it all shoots back into empire.

Conceiving a new empire maybe will end the dynasty. If you see last season, she was very much affected by the whole thing with those desert priests and maybe she is playing the longer game of ending the empire.
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10/10
let's talk a little about people and psycho history some more
jaccobandreev27 August 2023
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Attention Spoilers!

Let's start with the fact that this series is my favorite,

I can't speak for sure, but this series sharply turns the scales, shows the wrong side.

What the producers did in the new series changes the whole logic of the universe, everything turns out sharply, and although the motives were clear, open war was declared the basis, the emperor's indulgence towards prisoners, the queen went crazy.

I remember the first season, these sharp, grandiose reversals of events, this is what makes him worth loving, this universe, this emperor.

And this shot, when the emperor breaks the walls, looks down and says, as if, there will be peace, at any cost.

Captivates, captivates. I don't believe in actors, it's hard to believe that these people are acting and not living.

In general, here I am not only expressing an extremely positive review, I also plan to engage in further mathematical counter-propaganda to Seldon, to show his mani world that his fantasies and dictates should not be.

And so, if we consider the events of the universe in the context of correlations, and therefore interrelated events, we are forced to admit that any architecture of events is built around specific, powerful and all holders of the universe. It was the personality, having discovered the laws of electricity, that laid the foundations of civilization. It was the individual who ordered the laws of chemistry that opened the door to medicines and saved lives. Architecture becomes exponentially more complex with each link, new combinations of variations of the future appear every second, every moment of the world where there are billions is doomed to be different from the previous one.

Then on what does Seldon base his arguments? Where does he draw his conclusions from?

The logic is simple enough, studying the masses of animals, as well as considering them as an existing mass of living beings subject to the instinct of self-preservation, he observed that their fear overcomes them beyond some logical choices.

So he knew that there is a place that animals will run around, because this is a place of potential collision, which means that each animal will seek to save its life, avoid this collision, create a "place" that does not belong to anyone in the stream. A place where a person can stand boldly and know that he will not be harmed.

The catch is that a person is significantly different from an animal, by dozens of orders. This does not mean that there is nothing animal in us, there are a lot of predators and animals in us, I mean that a person is able to neglect his own life for the sake of the majority, even when the benefit of the majority is unlikely. Animals are herd animals, they try to survive at the expense of the herd, everything is different with a person, it is society that survives at the expense of one person, one small change or contribution, the picture has turned upside down, already a neighboring reality.

Therefore, when Seldon believes that he can predict stupid animals, this is his right, however, my personal remark is that no one in the Emperor's entourage has figured out what he builds it on and where he takes these conclusions about the world from, they didn't even bother to check his personal affairs and research, to analyze the "preconditions" for the discovery.

However, this may be a simple inattention. But I am writing this to the fact that, unlike an animal, a person jumps into the fire to save a cat or a dog, unlike an animal, a sapper goes and defuses a bomb, unlike animals, a person does not sleep at night to save people in intensive care.

However, to compare a person with an animal, and repeat to everyone that he knows the future and the past. It's just brutish. Decide to destroy the world just to prove to the world that there are animals around and obey the schemes, ignoring thousands of evidence to the contrary in every corner of the galaxy and even in your own mirror.

A radical extremist, with a pseudo education, offended and not recognized by anyone, a kind of pseudo-mission, who is doomed to suffer in an endless stratification of personality, for having announced to the world that he encroached on all the power of time, deciding that he could have power over him, if about trying calculate it.

In general, I don't know if Isaac Asimov writes like that, I respect him very much, but I put off reading his books for the 25th anniversary, however, if the main characters are really described in the book as they live on the screen, how deeply the person thought on the boundless stars, and how he ridiculed the fools who think that they can know the abyss and the boundless cosmos.

Thanks for watching, looking forward to the next episodes.

Appreciate the world.
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10/10
On Our way to Season 3
moviesfilmsreviewsinc17 September 2023
Salvor Hardin, a supporting character in Foundation season 2, has finally had the opportunity to shine in the sci-fi series. The chess pieces are moving and the board is set for the home stretch of the second season on Apple TV Plus. Last week's episode 6 concluded with the death of Hari Seldon, as Tellem Bond and the Mentalics continue to enact their plan. Foundation remains one of the best Apple TV shows and the best TV series currently watching. In this uneven episode, Gaal explores her Mentalic powers, while Salvor becomes increasingly uneasy due to her clouded visions. Gaal speaks to the assembled Mentalics at a feast, suggesting they need to reach out into the galaxy more to bring more of the Sighted to their cause before The Mule and his war arrive. Later in the day, Salvor investigates a fishing boat that Loron had tried to keep from her earlier in the day. Under the cover of night, she accesses the boat's travel history and takes it to its previous destination, the coastal area where Seldon drowned last week. Tellem arrives and tells Salvor that sometimes death is necessary, leaving her limp and floats next to Seldon's. The relationship between Gaal and Salvor has become increasingly fractious, with Salvor unsure of Gaal's hype. The tension between Queen Sareth and Demerzel grows, as Sareth reveals she knows Demerzel is a robot and confirms that the Empire ordered the death of Sareth's family. Demerzel believes she is no longer bound by the Laws of Robotics and only lives by one rule: "I serve Empire." She makes it clear that serving Empire is different from serving Brother Day or Sareth, suggesting she might take extreme action if she disapproves of this union. She is not afraid to kill a Cleon. Sareth and Day have a tense discussion, where she emotionally recounts the story of her family and their individual personalities, revealing that she knows what happened to them. They part on rather cold terms, leaving viewers eagerly anticipating the next events. Queen Sareth secretly meets Brother Dawn, who she believes has "kind" eyes and suggests her children could share those eyes. She agrees to marry Day but wants Dawn to step up and father her children, ensuring he cannot be forced out by Day. They kiss to seal a bloodless coup. The core members of the Queen Sareth fan club enjoy seeing her take control against the Cleons and are on board for her plan to bring down the Genetic Dynasty. Brothers Constant and Poly Verisof are imprisoned by the Cleons, while Hober Mallow's attempt to win the Spacers over to the Foundation's cause fails. Hober escapes captivity with the help of his pet Bishop's Claw, showing Bel Riose his "whisper-ship" capabilities. Hober reports to Brother Day that the Foundation has technology beyond even that of the Empire. Bel's husband Glawen Curr is intrigued by the possibility of the Foundation overthrowing the Empire, but Bel is forced into submission by the Empire's threats. Constant and Poly face trial in front of the Cleons, with Poly asking for sovereignty for the Foundation in exchange for not waging war against the Empire. In the episode of Foundation, Seldon warns Brother Day that the Foundation is not toothless and knows that it would win a war. Day refuses to let this worry him, ordering Bel Riose to surround Terminus and taking inventory of any useful Foundation tech. Constant and Poly are locked up again. The episode is sluggish with too many characters involved and Seldon's over-arching plan left oblique and unknowable. The episode has elements that were loved, such as Sareth playing with Dawn and Salvor and Gaal's complex relationship. However, with three episodes remaining, the Second Crisis is set to resolve, and the Empire now has reason to fear the Foundation. This could be explosive. For more sci-fi from Apple, check out our guide to the Invasion season 2 release date and the For All Mankind season 4 release date. For more space action, read our Ahsoka episode 1 and 2 recap and find out how Ahsoka Tano survived Order 66.
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4/10
Same room, same people
hppvj26 August 2023
The problem with Foundation lingers on. The core of the original book is that psycho history is a math, developed by Harold Seldon, that can predict evolution of societies regardless of the coming and going of individuals and of their individual contributions. There in lies the magic of the story.

And yet the same people, each some kind of immortal, in the same rooms are mingling throughout the series spanning hundreds of years. How?? Empire by genetic cloning, others by cyrosleep or - as Hari Seldon - mysteriously being brought back to life (for the sake of ... plot?) and one is even a robot.

The choice of the show to keep recognizable characters on screen over what is supposed to be hundreds of years forces the plot to jump through hoops. It's an understandable choice but fundamentally at odds with the story being told.
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1/10
Horrible writing
articaldog22 January 2024
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As a response to empathy Salvor Hardins feels towards the little sea animals getting boiled alive. (so called "mollusc") They have the other character spew out "Plants feel pain too"

Really? What kind of cavemen nonsense writing is this. Making it seem like torturing and eating animals is on the same level as eating plants.

Plants have no central nervous system, nor are they self aware. They have responses to stimuli that threaten to damage them, however pain is an animal phenomenon, that requires a nervous system.

And this being a sci-fi doesn't make it so such made up BS is ok. It's still terrible writing. I understand she's the villain, but it doesn't seem like they made her say that with making her unlikable as the goal.
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