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5/10
It's was different, that's for sure
nathanwindschill28 August 2018
Warning: Spoilers
Best part of the movie was how they snuck in Ambrose Bierce into it and even one of his short stories. The movie was in no way exciting but oddly interesting in a realist way. In a way that showed how boring and unintelligent it might have been back then if that even makes sense. It takes balls to make a movie like this one and many will trash it but that's ok. All I'm trying to say it felt real in a way many movies about this time period do not.
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Worth Seeing, But Much Work for the Reward
Miles-103 September 2017
"Men Go to Battle" (a somewhat misleading title) has its charms. The party at the Smalls' house vividly displays the similarities and differences between life then and now. (The research into detail will appeal to the history buff; although, this is not to say that every single detail is perfect because you can't expect perfection.) The plot points involving the Mellon brothers' competing ideas about how to run the farm and their sub-textual rivalry over Betsy Small (Rachel Korine) are compelling when reviewed in the end. Everything that happens leads up to a resolution of the brothers' relationship. We do not know what becomes of them after the movie ends, but we know that some things must be permanent.

Apparently, the movie achieved its economical budget ($500K) by using Civil War re-enactors to make the several military scenes. (They have their own costumes and gear, after all.) The war is far from glamorized. It is boring much of the time and parasitic on the civilians – except when it isn't, and you never know which it is going to be – and then, suddenly, there is death.

The story-telling is slow paced. The camera work is detached, static, ponderous, and often disorienting. When there are long shots – often starkly beautiful establishing shots – they are so static that they might as well have been taken with a still camera, but there are too many close ups and it is often too dark. The lighting appears to be entirely natural or at least imitates natural lighting. This is not a problem in daylight, but there are many scenes at night in which the actors seem to disappear into and reappear out of an inky blackness. What is going on? A second viewing does not clear matters up in every case. (Were the filmmakers too pure to use day-for-night filter technique to control lighting in night scenes?)

The dialogue is an odd mixture of the boringly pedestrian with sudden bursts of spontaneity. Consider a scene between Henry Mellon (Timothy Morton) and Betsy Small on her porch. There hasn't been a real conversation between a man and a woman up to this point. (Arguably, there still hasn't been afterward.) There is a party going on in the house, but, as it happens, Henry and Betsy both feel alienated from the frivolity, albeit for different reasons. There is a very long dialogue between them about the weather. It definitely has a subtext, which is interesting, but the bare text of the exchange is numbingly boring. (I am reminded of the late Judith Christ's observation that a movie that is about boredom is inevitably going to be boring.) The subtext almost earns this movie its mischaracterization as a comedy, but only if you do not fall asleep or gnaw your own leg off before the payoff.

A scene that illustrates the detachment of the camera and sound work occurs about halfway through the movie. Francis Mellon (David Maloney), Henry's brother, is in the general store buying supplies. There is a conversation between a clerk, whose counter is near the front window, and some Union soldiers who keep demanding tobacco even after the clerk has explained that he has no tobacco to sell them and knows no one else who has any. (The soldiers overhear Francis ask for some tobacco seed, and one of the soldiers comments, "You can't smoke that.") Francis then walks out of the store, but the camera remains inside, only showing Francis through the window. In the foreground, we continue to focus on the long-since pointless dialogue between the tobacco-jonesing soldiers and their dried up source. Suddenly, we become aware that Francis has said something to two soldiers passing on the street and one of them punches Francis, sending him to the ground. Only on second viewing do we hear the faint dialogue: Francis addressed the soldiers as "ladies", they took offense, and he got hit. Why is this in the background instead of in the fore?

I am glad I saw this movie, but I would not recommend it if you just want an enjoyable adventure that won't make work.
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1/10
Want the truth on this movie, read this review
dgefroh2 November 2016
What is happening on a lot of the reviews posted on the IMDb site is that the reviewer must have an interest be that financial or simply they know the actors, writers, producers, etc. What ends up happening is when we (a typical IMDb user) check the reviews on little known movies, we end up getting a load of BS and personal bias.

Let me set the record straight on this movie for anyone looking for a honest personal review. This is maybe the worst movie made in the last couple of years. There is no story, the acting is pathetic, it's way too long, way to slow, there is absolutely no reason to watch this garbage. Your life cannot be so completely void that you need to bring this trite into it. To say this movie is a complete and total waste of time would actually be understating it. I'm sick and tired of being misled by brain dead reviewers. The bottom line is avoid this movie, do NOT waste your precious time or money on this crap, even with your finger on the fast forward button, it won't make this one go away soon enough. Just in case you didn't quite get the message....I HATED THIS MOVIE AND EVERYTHING ABOUT IT INCLUDING THOSE REVIEWERS WHO RECOMMENDED IT.
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7/10
Parable About Choices in Life
yuenw00327 November 2016
The story is about 2 brothers in Kentucky, Francis and Henry, hard pressed economically, in the winter at the start of the American Civil War, 1861. They live on a farm overrun by weeds. The brothers horse around at a camp fire one night with knives and Henry gets a bad cut. They seek medical help at the estate of the Smalls, a well to-do shopkeeper family in the area. While waiting for Henry to be treated, Francis socializes with the Smalls and their guests at a party being held there. Henry returns, see his brother socializing, feels left out and disappears into the darkness. Francis, now alone, take steps to work the land. Meanwhile, Henry joins the union army and enjoys a life of getting 3 square meals a day in exchange for his service. The two brothers correspond by letter, each forging their own destiny. The climax comes when Henry's unit is overrun and wiped out in a battle. Being the lone survivor, he reject military life, deserts, and makes his way back to the Kentucky farm. Upon arriving at the farm, Henry discovers Francis is now a successful tobacco farmer and married to a Small. The Smalls, on the other hand have lost their business and are out in the cold. This movie is a parable about how one pursues his vision of possibility for the future and another forgoes that and settles for a life of basic survival. This is a universal lesson in life. Each moment, the universe hold an infinite number of possibilities. We choose only one in this life. What we choose can lead to a life from rags to riches or a life of rags to one of being a wandering army deserter.
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2/10
Disappointed
humpy-0690631 August 2018
I found this movie in a section on Netflix called award winning movies and after viewing the movie I figured it must of been a participation ribbon. The characters were so poorly portrayed that you could not make connection to them or care about what happens to them. The acting was wooden and tiresome, the plot poorly executed. Not a good effort and not worth watching.
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3/10
Napoleon Dynamite does the Civil War...with no laughs
simondog-2494329 August 2017
If you want to know what average people looked like during the Civil War...and didn't want to bother following someone smart, or rich or witty, this movie is for you. You will give it 10 stars.

If you want to see action, you won't like this movie. If you want to see the usual beauties that Hollywood throws at us in every role, you won't like this movie. If you want to see plot, you will HATE this movie.

It felt like someone took Napoleon Dynamite and dropped him into the Civil War era, without any of the laughs.
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1/10
Slow, Utterly Boring, Plotless, and Ultimately Pointless
ninjawaiter10 November 2018
It's difficult to comprehend what it is some reviewers saw in this film. I see some of them saying it was like looking through a window into another time, and I suppose there may be some truth to that. But imagine someone looking through a window into your life on a random, drab, uneventful day, and how bored they would be watching you go through your daily routine. That is essentially this film.

Except it is worse than that. The characters rarely speak, and when they do it is never meaningful, just the stuttering utterances of awkward, unintelligent men as they stumble through the mundane events of their rural lives. There is virtually no emotion in any of the characters: they are all drab, dour, and boring. Emotional characters whose motivations and desires are clear and relatable can sometimes draw us into something even if it lacks a compelling plot, but this film has neither. Not only does it lack a compelling plot, it lacks any plot at all. There is no pacing to the story: no rise, no fall, no drama. The film even managed to make a civil war battle seem drab and boring. The character who goes to war is not animated even when life and death hang in the balance. He shows no fear, no passion, none of the hatred for the enemy that men summon to compel them to kill before their foes kill their friend and themselves. He seems to have a friend who reads and writes letters for him, but we do not see whether his friend falls in battle, and he certainly never looks for him.

Understated is not always bad, but this film stretches it to unstated. The film has nothing to say, nothing to show us, and absolutely no point. I simply cannot imagine how anyone would come away from this experience not feeling like they were robbed of their time. If not for the anticipation of hoping that something might happen (nothing does), I could have had the same experience watching paint dry, and would have come away no less emotionally or intellectually satisfied.

As a final note, the title of this film feels quite inappropriate. There is no conflict in the film to which that assertion applies, and if it is merely a statement of what the film is supposed to be about, it is also incorrect. If they're just trying to tell us what's going to happen (almost nothing), it should rightly be "A Man Goes to a Battle, While Another Does Not" and neither has any clear reason or motivation for doing or not doing these things. I thought perhaps toward the end there might be a conflict, the brother who stayed resenting the brother who left for abandoning him, and the brother who left thinking the brother who stayed a coward, or something, and perhaps telling him that "Men Go to Battle" as a challenge to his manhood. Alas, conflict would require emotion, and both conflict and emotion seem utterly beyond the abilities or intentions of the filmmakers. Instead the characters simply plod along, and the paint slowly dries.
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8/10
BEHIND THE LINES: Daily Life in the border states
young_scholar4 September 2017
Warning: Spoilers
Men go off to Battle is an interesting study of the Civil War far away from the hotheads of Massachusetts or Georgia.

Welcome to Small Corners KY. Kentucky can go either way. There's talk of Rebels In Bowling Green seeing their lands seized; Betsy Small the object of many a young man's affection including both Henry Mellon and Francis Mellon expresses fear to her coterie that the slaves might rise up. But Kentucky slaves are mostly household servants seen only passing through the scenes.

Kentucky sits on the fence between Union and Confederate. As Betsy Small (Rachel Korine) tells a well groomed young man courting her it's nice to visit New York City and also New Orleans.

Her Daddy the local owner of the general store is the richest man in town to whom all the farmers owe money."If it were five years ago or even last year..." Mr Small (Steve Coulter) rejects a plea for assistance from Francis Mellon (David Maloney)who with his brother Henry (Timothy Morton) are struggling to maintain a run down farm.

At the party which Francis and Henry crash to seek medical attention for Henry, Francis excels at dancing leaving Henry and Betsy on the porch outside. Henry kisses the weaping Betsy who shrieks, "My first kiss from a man came from Henry!"

Humiliated Henry runs off to join the Union (US) Army where he learns to read and write. Henry corresponds with his brother Francis; Betsy drives out to read to Francis.

Then comes the Battle of Perryville in October 1862. Surviving the decimation of his unit, Henry desserts only to find at home everything has changed: the Smalls'stately property was seized. Betsy has married Francis who might have liked the Confederacy but has made his fortune selling tobacco to the US Army.

Henry who finds he bores Francis with some of the Army tales takes some money and steals off.

The costuming and setting are excellent. In recreating the civil war era outside of one of the flash points of war, the writers, choreographers and actors attained technical perfection. They all deserve to be made Colonels of Kentucky.

A viewer expected the grand vision of the civil war home front of GONE WITH THE WIND or STREETS OF NEW YORK or the battle scenes of GLORY would be disappointed. I'd say this film would have made a great item for THE HISTORY CHANNEL when it played history.
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9/10
Mesmerizing -- you feel as if you are there
janrigsby11 July 2016
A civil war story about 2 brothers. A visual window into the human heart, where feelings seek resolution.

It's necessary to get over the lack of a steady-cam: the first few minutes can feel a bit disorienting, jerky, and off-putting because the camera is hand-held. Stay with it!

Very quickly, I became mesmerized. I felt as if I were transported to the time and place. The raw, realistic clothing, housing, and surroundings of that era (so different from today and seldom presented realistically) drew me into the time and place. I felt as if I were being privileged to watch real people -- without makeup, in their everyday clothes, struggling through horrific circumstances. I mourned the end of the movie, I would have gladly stayed with these people for another hour.

Acting, costuming, sets at their absolute best.I was intrigued by the reviews, saying that the movie was made for $500,000 when the military re-enactment scenes alone should have cost 4x that amount.
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10/10
Superb!!!
bighebeal14 July 2016
Not only the best 'indie' I've ever seen -- by FAR -- but one of the best historical movies I've ever seen. For an hour and a half I really felt like I'd wandered around rural America during the Civil War.

As the previous reviewer commented, this is a movie about textures, not plot. The dialogue is spare, very spare; the accents feel authentic, so much so that there are moments when it's hard to make out what they're saying -- but it doesn't matter. Plot points, such as they are, don't come out in dialogue as much as through the flow of images. Nobody talks about relationships -- they don't talk much at all, which feels 'right' for the place and time -- rather, we sense the relationships through how people look at each other, how they react, wordlessly, to each other's behavior.

The casting is excellent, too. With one minor exception, all the people in the film feel like figures from that era. This is a very hard thing to achieve, you really have to work hard to find actors who don't have that contemporary energy -- but they pulled it off.

It's involving, it's seductive in how it reels you in, it's just all-around impressive as hell.

One bit of advice: if at all possible, do not wait for this to appear on DVD or streaming video. GO SEE IT in a theater, it will be a much better experience.

Honestly, I haven't been this impressed with something in ages.
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9/10
Other reviewers are right
ccarnein16 June 2022
Obviously, there are viewers who love this movie and others who hate it. I love it. It's atmospheric, with clear ties to a particular place (rural Kentucky) and time (early in the Civil War). The relationship between the brothers is full contradictions and conflict as well as brotherly love and disappointment--if you like movies about relationships, it's fascinating. I was left wondering what happens to Henry, the more complex and conflicted brother, who disappears at dawn at the end of the movie.

I don't recommend this for people looking for a "war flick", but there are some viewers, myself included, who think this movie is a gem (and have no "financial interest" in it, as one reviewer seems to think). We just don't all like the same things, right?
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