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7/10
Trump like view of women
bkoganbing24 September 2019
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The SVU squad investigates a case of date rape involving the grandson of a communications tycoon. Ariane Rinehart says she was drugged and raped and the trail points to Ian Nelson, grandson of Bob Gunton a billionaire. Then it's discovered that there is additional semen from randy old grandpa.

Consent with Nelson is an iffy proposition. Rinehart never consented to the old man.

The defense attorney Raphael Sbarge tries one move to stall a trial. But ADA Raul Esparza stops that one. You have to see Esparza with Gunton on the stand.

It's really satisfying as Gunton who has a Trump like view of women get nailed.
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10/10
An Old Playboy Billionaire
yazguloner20 February 2022
After Tucker, everything is the same as before...

Olivia is beautiful as always.. It's fun to watch her dialogues and discussions with Barba... Squad is hard working as always... Fin and his humor is sweet.

Guest star Gunton is great... Nelson is very handsome... It's nice to see Sarah Clarke. Good episode.
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5/10
Quality has declined
TheLittleSongbird27 October 2022
In no way is that saying that "Decline and Fall" is a bad episode, as it isn't. Compared to how 'Law and Order: Special Victims Unit' was in its earlier seasons, one cannot help notice how huge the difference in quality is. The episode in fact left me very mixed on first watch, loved Barba but the level of excessive unprofessionalism not near so much. There have been episodes of the show that fared better on rewatch and was really hoping that this would be one of them.

My feelings to be honest are pretty much the same on rewatch. There are a good number of good things, but there are also a number of things that could have been done a lot better. As far as Season 18 goes, "Decline and Fall" is neither one of the best or worst. If anything it's middling and it's one of those mixed feelings outings. Not bad, let alone terrible, but doesn't have enough to it to make it good despite the good things being very good.

"Decline and Fall's" good things will be mentioned first. The production values are slick and have a subtle grit, with an intimacy to the photography without being too claustrophobic. The music isn't used too much and doesn't get too melodramatic. The direction has moments of taut urgency when needed while giving some breathing space, especially the second half.

There are thought provoking moments, particularly with Barba. Who is great here and continues to be one of the latter season's biggest refreshments, the good thing is too that there is a healthy dose of him. Did appreciate too that there was no victim blaming, which happened in too many of the Season 18 episodes. The acting is very well done, particularly Raul Esparza.

Where "Decline and Fall" falls short on is the case and how it is handled. The case itself is another one that's thin and there are too few surprises or suspense and the pacing could have done with more tautness. Really didn't like how it was handled by the SVU either, the attitudes are so indifferent, the search scene is sloppy and there is too much premature and excessive conclusion jumping.

Am continuing to not care for Olivia very much this season, with some exceptions, for reasons expressed in other reviews for the latter episodes. When comparing her now to the far more likeable and relatable person she was in the earlier seasons, it is like seeing a completely different character and not a desirable one. The dialogue apart from Barba is bland and the supporting characters are too stock for one to be able to invest in them.

In conclusion, a mixed opinion here. 5/10.
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5/10
More all men are rapists crap
marysammons-4222015 August 2020
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This episode wasn't so bad until the end. The creepy old man gets what he deserves. But they can't leave it at that. They have to push their all men are rapists crap at the end:

Rollins: do you think Eric's generation is any better than his grandfather's or just different?

Phone rings and Carisi answers

Benson: I don't it's any better or worse just younger

Then Carisi announces there's a rape

So all old men are creeps and so are young men. I'm so sick of this show's political crap.
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