Reviews

This episode was hard to watch, and felt like an imitation of how someone would think an Orville episode looks like. The humor too, feels like someone who looks at Seth's humor, and tries to replicate it, but didn't really like it.

Problems:

• Walking into the same trap they already did once before.

• Just random things happening. Not discovery, curiosity, or any else. Just randomness.

• The whole thing feels like some big company bought them, has lots of money, set the standard of production, but does mediocre corporate product.

• Seth hates cgi, yet the show is full of it. Why? He expressed, that he loved the old models, like SW and ST had. So what changed all of a sudden? Pretty sure wasn't his choice. Big studios love expensive, but bad quality soulless cgi.

• Super expensive sets that have no point, but being

a camera shot, and empty space. Previously this wasn't a thing. This serves no purpose.

• They straight up bully Isaac in this episode. What kind of command is this?

• Hidden pc-ish propaganda. Seth is a normal person, not a

company trying to virtue signal. Virtue signaling is not a commoner thing, as every normal person can see through of it, except for big companies, who love the pretense.

• It smells like incompetent middle and upper management. People who don't care, don't know their job, and are just "bench holders". It has nothing to do with fans or professionals.

• Professionalism lost for small jokes.

• Unnecessary action, pointless action, and just action story,

for no reason. Feels exactly like how big studios make mediocre shows based on nostalgia and big titles.

• These are not Seth's jokes or writing, he doesn't write or do,

things like this.

• Science is magic, now the scanners just tell everything,

no discovery, no curiosity, stuff is there.

• The team is very unprofessional. Touching and pushing everything.

These are still navy personal, smart, trained to be careful, and much more. Not just random civilians.

• Inconsistent writing and characters.

• Cursing, sometimes yes, but this just feels like bad writing and out of place.

• Just really bad and low quality cgi.

I'm sorry to say this to be honest. But this is the third episode and hard to watch. This is not the creation of Seth and he has no creative will in this production. It is obvious. It is sad. Orville was a great show. Seth's fan ship is not in the show, neither his directing. Something happened behind the scenes, and I would expect a corporate take over. This is entirely not his personality.

The purchased corporate reviews are disturbing too. They are so obvious too. Bland and soulless. The same thing happened on youtube with SW8. So I would expect it's the same company.

Two things, people can be faulty when someone does suicide and others feelings are a selfish viewpoint.

For one, most of the ship's crew is responsible. It's okay to have feelings, but not okay to give someone constant harassment. The woman in question is angry, but she forgets why she is alive. All of them do. That man betrayed everything that he was programmed to do so, his home, his whole nation, to save them. He has nowhere to go, neither back, nor join these people. The Keylon would've succeeded without Isaac. That was the original plan. It would make sense to give a speech at least, addressing this issue before the crew. They are venting their frustration and anger on an easy target.

Secondly, when someone kills themselves, they don't do it for "what others would feel". This is a thing said by the victims, but not very persuasive. People who commit suicide often don't see a way out. Which of course is untrue, as people are always boxed in their own heads, own little prison. Money for example, does not exist. Why are many afraid of it, or it not being? Life goes on. It did for the last 10 000 years. Sometimes they are boxed in their heads, because of mental illness. Depression, melancholy. Sometimes, they tell themselves awful thing, think of awful things to ruin their own mood. Discomfort followed by frustration, frustration, by hatred, and than apathy. Leading down the road of melancholy and hopelessness. It took me physical pain, like I cut something in my head, to silence those awful voices telling me bad things. They are still there, but so much easier to silence now.

People don't understand that they are boxed in, till they are out of the melancholy. But to get out of the melancholy, they would need to be out. This is what is really hard. Getting out with melancholy. However, sometimes just going out of the city, in the meadows, forests, nature, and chilling, forgetting things and not caring is the solution. As the city, the human medium, can often be the source of melancholy. The incoming dread of deadline, the tomorrow work, the neighbor, the whatever else. The caring for the human medium. The artificial stress, problem and drama. They are manmade creations. Getting away from it, to a natural medium is very healing. This can be hard at places like Tokyo or New York, where the concrete is layed many kilometers long in every direction. But this is just another layer of comfort zone . Another "box", another chain, another prison, another lie. Leave it. Care not. There is a reason why people in the countryside are more mentally healthier. Sleep naked. Do fun things. A bit of flour-dough rested in oil, salted, makes a great delicacy. Bake it in an oven. Try out things. Get new input.

Many who ends themselves have regrets. The medics know it. Not all mental sickness or melancholy is so easily suppressed. Some people have very seriously bad things happening in their life. Beating beaten, bullied, or being abused. Living in the bad neighborhood. Being hurt in the workplace, but not having another choice. But in this the show is right. Every person is very precious. Despite my flaws, I am loved by some. It's a thing we share. Keep trying. Also, it's a realization: I thought, I was the only one so super happy, that I was clapping in my chair, when a girl said yes to my date. But she was just as happy. In this, the show is right. People are precious, they are made in pairs too. It's taking away from the other one and a toll on others. Probably, this does not help on those, who are in a bad relationship, and sad because of that. If you can, let go, if you are with the bad person. If you can't, I hope you get out in a way that is not suicide. You are deserving and very lovable.

The show wishes to give condolences to the victims, but it made me feel, like it misses the point of the discussion.

The show has it's absolute pro's, such as some characters, like Roschack, Dr. Manhattan, The Nightguy. The setting is pretty good too. There are a lot of good things, hard to grasp, but it's there. The politics, the grim, the power, all of them fits pretty well. Than there is the philosophy.. and the story.

I also feel, that some things are just.. bad, out of place. Especially the philosophy. The thoughts, the ideas, which the movie is trying to imagine or screen are just bad. Sometimes childish. It feels forced, it feels long. Most of them could be summed up easily, and answered in the same way. It falls flat on the face. It was so hard to watch through all the scenes and explanations that were put together like some childlike idea, which than was kept being pulled longer and longer.

The story... well.. Not the best. The start and lead up was good. An afterworld of the hero era with some remainders and political influence. Not realistic political influence or put together. More like a wash up. But okay.

Than came the mid part and the end. The animation was good, but out of place and explaining way too much. I was happy to see it, but absolutely unnecessary in this form. The whole Adrian thing is just bad at best. The whole Dr. Manhattan as the "uniting enemy" is just stupid. It's.. faulty at every stage. To put such a scrapped together ending to such a long and mixed together movie.. well.. a bit disappointing.

So I would say the first hour is exciting, interesting, than downhill from then. I didn't like how there are gangs with Roschack around. It makes no sense. He is like a sociopath Batman. How are they even alive? How he died was emotionally touching. I'm not sure if.. it was sound. But I really liked his character and the actor did a great job, his death was emotional. I would say he was the max of the story.

I know a lot hates the Prequels, for a lot of reason. Some is as how they show the things we heard about in the Originals. They are entirely different, than what we imagined. This is what I like. That the episodes show how things escalated, and that how things turned so black & white.

• First of all, Darth Vader. We all heard of how good he was as a Jedi Knight. A great warrior, a great general and a Jedi. But especially this episode shows how untrue that is, and how it is mostly nostalgia from the old Jedi. He wasn't a good Jedi, he had a wife. Which lead him to the dark side.. which is why Jedi aren't allowed to marry in most cases. He was young, he was passionate, he was smart and powerful. But these are the things that lead him to the dark side. But when we hear of him, we imagine an epic young Jedi, very powerful, strong, mighty who was seduced by Palpatine. Which is again not true. Both Clone Wars, canon and this series shows, that the reason Darth Vader is a thing mostly faults at the Jedi and Anakin. I would say even Obi-Wan. He overlooked every dark thing, and he knew about Anakin and Padme. He knew that Anakin has problems because he was once a slave, but nobody done anything. They all ignored it. (Jedi Codex irony)

• The Great Republic. We heard a lot of great things about it... but honestly, is it even livable? Would most choose to live under the Republic? Corouscant the core of the whole thing is filled with / rotten with - corruption, unlivable places for the poor, and a pretty bad place for the average citizen. Constant strikes, demonstrations. The CIS exists because of the Republic. Outter Rim people being looked down, colonized and used by the Republic. The only good way to make more money, and have a chance for a better future is trading, which the Republic very heavily / extensively taxed. The reason so many people rebelled. Of course, they are far from the good, but how desperate they could be? And what the council did? What the Jedi did? Nothing. Problems comes after problems, they didn't care and when they don't have enough money, because of corruption etc, than they tax even more? This is a thing in the real world, and it's not a good thing.

• The Jedi Order. We heard so much of it. But.. it's nothing like what we heard. Not at all. They are basically ignorant politicians half the way, than "blinded" by the dark side. Their acts is not at all smart. In the Clone Wars we are going to know even more about things and see how things escalate, but even here we can see all of it! So many fault, so many things the Jedi can't seem to notice. Are they really wise? Smart? No. Far from it. Political guards - shock trooper clones - everywhere in Coruscant. Remember the Separation of Powers? It was made, so no One man could hold the power, but it's there. They are everywhere. We will see more of how deep they are everywhere in CW, but just from this 3 movies we can see it. One man, Palpatine has all 3 line.. but the Jedi never noticed. How is that possible? Many great Jedi Master left the Order, because of these things, and they show it. The Jedi is bad, political, corrupt, not caring. They are doing what they are not supposed to!

• The Clone War We expected epic battles with Jedi fighting and Clones being bad ass, and so many more thing! But this showed what the war really was. A massacre. A resistance for a well-needed change. The Jedi, basically a force-cult whom are barely military trained compared to clones were generals. Not knights or specially ranked. They were Generals in the war. How? The clones? They were people, but they were killed by the thousands. While the CIS had droid ships and barely any real people on board, every republic cruiser had thousands of clones and they all died. Some of the ships were supposed to land forces (invasion forces probably) and had as much as 16 000 clones on it, but was shot down on orbit! The clones were bred to fight, and had to fight. How is that humane? I understand, you have an army, let them fight we need them anyway. They were bred to be soldiers, and you can't do much about that. Even though it's clear that the enemy ordered the Clones and their hand is in this.. but sure let's use them. Is that smart at all? No, no it isn't. But make more of them? Sacrifice millions of clones that were never given the chance to not fight, because basically you are corrupt. These are not droids, they are people. They die, they get a hole in their stomach, they bleed out. This episode showed that.

Summary: The Jedi is Evil ..and I recommend this movie.