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8/10
Overall 8 for season. Could have been much better.
mpboylanjr-5403817 August 2019
It started out like a house on fire. Wasting no time jumping into action , and this lasted the first few episodes. They were still hitting the road doing what makes the show so good in the first place and that is interviewing the psychopaths. With new cases popping up as you would guess, but somewhere it got bogged down in the 5th episode and it was all about the Atlanta child killer, and that's it. The acting was excellent but I don't know why they stopped after a very brief but well done interview with Manson. Why did they just decide to only work the 1 case ? They also let the show get slowed down by Wendy and her hesitation to come out of the closet and blah blah blah !!! They really should have kept up with the interviews and studying of different serial killers. Do t get me wrong the season was a success in my eyes and I enjoyed it nevertheless, but it could have been great. A lot of suspense at times and the twist with Tensch adopted son Brian brought another eerie factor to the show.
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8/10
not as good as season 1
dollfacecrafter26 February 2020
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Mostly because of what everyone else is saying, what made season 1 so great is the connection of Tench and Holden, and the snarky banter they have, mostly Tench, making me crack up. A lot of that is lost in season two because of a couple of sub plots that are creepy, but don't really go anywhere. (like his creepy adopted kid) you kept expecting something to happen............but it doesn't. and his wife complaining about his job, seriously, he is FBI, get over it. Holden is a genius but he does have a corncob stuck up his butt.
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10/10
Film versus Book
albundy6048217 August 2019
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The workings of the BSU, after the unwanted attention earlier in the season, are laser-focused on the Atlanta child murders, and we start the episode talking to Wayne Williams (who was eventually found to be THE GUY), but they release him in short order. Bill's family issues drive a wedge between Holden and himself, and some old fashioned detective work takes over. For anyone who's read Douglas's books or remembers this event, there is still a blanket of dread and despair,hanging over the police, and nobody sets the tone for this better than Fincher. A beautifully sad ending to season 2.
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9/10
Season Two
zkonedog1 September 2019
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Mindhunter is a show that almost seems a bit out of place on Netflix. Whereas that company has a model (albeit on that may be improving) of pumping out marginal content just to have said content, Mindhunter is very much a "prestige" show that would be right at home on, say, HBO. It is expertly produced and really takes its time crafting its slates of new episodes. This second season is just as dramatic and thrilling as the first, although it does so using a very different formula.

For a very basic overview, S2 of Mindhunter sees FBI Behavior Science Unit Agents Holden Ford (Jonathan Groff) and Bill Tench (Holt McCallany) trying to built an entire investigative department on the concept of profiling. In conjunction with fellow steward Dr. Wendy Carr (Anna Torv) and new boss A.D. Gunn (Michael Cerveris), the duo ultimately find themselves running point on the now-infamous Atlanta Child Murders of the late 70s/early 80s.

The first season of Mindhunter was really all about the interviews with famous serial killers, and for a short time it looks like S2 will follow that lead, as Ed Kemper (Cameron Britton) is brought back and even Charles Manson (Damon Herriman) gets some videotape time. However, it quickly becomes clear after the first few episodes that the season will follow a much different pattern in a number of respects:

On the procedural front, we see how the BSU profiling works (and doesn't work) "in the field". While just coming up with the concept of profiling serial killers is one thing, using it on a practical level is entirely a different animal. Local cops and district attorneys are skeptical, and the agents (Ford in particular) are often frustrated when budgets and old-school police techniques seem like insurmountable barriers. I really enjoyed this change of approach (from the theoretical to the practical), and fortunately the drama or entertainment factor does not wane whatsoever.

Another strong suit of this season is how certain characters are given very interesting backstories that truly serve to enhance their characters (something that didn't always hit the mark in S1). For example, Dr. Carr is revealed to be a lesbian with a complicated relationship to new friend Kay (Lauren Glazier), a move that gets her questioning her own personality traits in very unique ways.

Agent Tench gets perhaps the biggest "push" of the season, as his son Brian (Zachary Scott Ross) is involved in a murderous incident of his own, throwing tremendous conflict upon Bill and wife Nancy (Stacey Roca). Again, this serves to have Agent Tench questioning his methods as they relate to personal & impersonal portions of life.

Behind all of this? Short little tease-clips of the BTK killer, who will obviously factor into the proceedings at some point.

Overall, I was once again highly entertained and mesmerized by Mindhunter's second campaign. They branch off into very much a new formula, yet do so in a way that doesn't lesson the tension in any way. I can't quite say this show has reached perfect storytelling levels in either season so far, but it has come darned close, hence the 9/10 rating.
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9/10
Gripping & heartwrenchingly real
ness_erwin24 August 2019
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Two FBI investigators and a Scientist specializing in Psychology spearheaded the development of the categorization of "serial killers," dedicating their time to intensive interviews with convicted compulsive killers. They spent the entire first season developing investigative and interview procedures and creating guidelines for identifying potential serial killers through behavior.

Season 2 was especially fascinating as this was the first time through various episodes that our characters were shown taking the information they had been studying in the previous season and directly applying it to a case - The Atlanta Child Murders. I knew nothing about this case prior to this season & thought that it was incredibly heart wrenching as a killer being linked through evidence to the child murders was never identified and so many children had been lost.

In terms of character development, Agent Ford was able to overcome his PTSD introduced in the previous season and proved to be integral in catching a killer responsible for 2 of the deaths. I believe this case worked to show Holden that he must not get caught up in tunnel vision of a "profile" and must in turn learn to look outside the box for clues. Agent Barney's character worked perfectly to point out all the flaws in Ford's process and was also integral in tapping into new leads. Tench's family situation this season brought forth a side of him that interfered with his way of thinking and perceiving killers which led to a more dynamic character and side of him we hadn't seen before. What happened with his son was huge twist and I'm interested to see how everything plays out with his character in Season 3. Wendy seemed to be put on more of a sideline this season in terms of her character's career development, but I am glad we got a closer look into her personal life to better understand her character (as we have already seen the personal lives of Tench and Ford). I found her love story this season (versus another love story of Ford's) was refreshing.

As someone who loved the interview focus in Season 1, I was pleased to see our characters in a more investigative setting this season using the knowledge they had gained. This show deals with such heavy content and this season kept me on the edge of my seat. Superb acting, great writing...I cannot wait for another season!
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9/10
Season 2 Review
thomasjay-220121 August 2019
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Footnote uptop this review is for the whole second season! Mindhunter has fast become one of my favourite shows recently and I'd argue one of the greatest currently out there. This is a similarly strong second outing for the show though honestly did leave me wanting a little more (in all the best ways). Positives first! Fincher's influence is clear on this piece and frankly it benefits massively from it, despite being sparingly involved his style and quality does seem over arcing and the first few episodes were truly gripping and haunting in a way similar to the basement scene from Zodiac which nearly made my heart explode from the tension, an ultimate master of thriller. The grim tone never feels overbearing, rather remaining perfectly levelled to still be an enjoyable piece. The main credit I can give season 2 is it's character focus, mainly on Tench and Forde (as you might expect) the pair are put through strain and frankly Tench's personal situation is not only a twist and then some, it's massively impactful for the future hence his return to an empty home at the finale. The 2 are more developed and their new, tiered relationship is well fleshed out. Sadly this comes at the expense of others, particularly Wendy who from memory was a key player in the first, only to be reduced to minor interviews with nothing killers and an odd obsession, almost fetishisation of her lesbianism which even still only gets no more than twenty minutes at most. Additionally she's often caged by Gunn which is uncomfortable to watch as the motive is usually gender. Typically though all else is great, as I said characters are well developed and greatly fleshed out but it does come at a cost of minor ones, the known killers i.e. Manson, Kemper & Berkowitz are all uncanny and are very well played though with the exception of Kemper the others are a little contrived in my eyes. As for negatives, the minor cast of Atlanta were a little divisive for me and the scenes were often meandering blocking our protagonists search in a way not too dissimilar to Wind River, clunky acting. The end title card was haunting as personally I had no knowledge of the Atlanta slayings and was impressed by how the show gave me such a similar dread thanks to the Final outcome of nothing. As for the post credits, the scenes with our mystery man weren't as odd as the first season but are at time very welcome breaks from the procedural aspects and certainly hint at an interesting season 3 and beyond. I'm glad it took an ambitious and grand leap from season 1 and was pleased overall by the quality
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9/10
Gripping and Suspenseful
alirat8 September 2019
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Having finished watching the entire Season 2 episodes I feel able to comment on the series as a whole. The episodes themselves were never conclusive, and that led to an increase in tension. Some reviewers found this format 'dull' and 'flat', but I thoroughly enjoyed the build-up of suspense. This series more realistically depicts actual police work, in that there are political tensions, funding restrictions and sometimes not a clean wrap up of events. Also police cases sometimes take months and even years to resolve. This season focussed on the Atlanta Child Murders, while we caught snippets of the BTK killer continuing his grisly obsession in the intros and outros.

The frustrations the BSU faced along the way with not being taken seriously, having budget constraints and all the political pressures brought to bear, for one reason or another, were maddening. The season also highlighted the heartbreaking reality of the slowness with which this series of murders was addressed by authorities, most likely based on the victims' race. There was a lot of nuance in the social commentary on race issues, from different perspectives. Thought provoking and sobering. The conclusion to the murder investigation was sad, very sad, and I was compelled to read further on the subject.

I enjoyed the music, and particularly the music for the story arc of Tench and his wife and son Brian. The heartbreak, anger and frustration were palpable, and the musical motif as Tench wrestled with his feelings every time he was about to enter his own home brought a poignancy to the vignettes.

I also enjoyed the season arc of Dr Carr and her rarely glimpsed vulnerability. Her character was brilliant in interviewing the convicted felon, and there was the stand out scene where she outs herself for the purpose of getting the murderer to talk more.

My only bugbear was that the background jumbled noise was at times too loud and made the dialogue hard to follow. It did lend atmosphere, but was just too loud.
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8/10
Not bad but not great
cmini-1343429 September 2019
Accurate to the real Atlanta child murders justice falls short. Yeah it's nice to see the BSU help a black community but this season could've been more compelling had it stuck to it's roots. More interviews with Manson, the Manson family, and Kemper would have been great. Hopefully next season will be more fruitful.
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I really don't know how to feel right now
kiiwwi21 February 2021
My only problem was that the whole thing that was going on in the last few episodes didn't feel like the show at all it was as if it belonged to another show it wasn't bad it just wasn't in the same theme.
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9/10
Fell flat
jdank3719 August 2019
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First off I love the show and I loved this season at first but it stalled and fell flat right after the Manson episode. I mean we bail on the whole purpose of the show to be in Atlanta and just get stonewalled for the remaining 4 episodes. If that's the story you want to tell I'm all for it but wrap it up quickly and get to something more compelling where Holden is in a room with the killer more.
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8/10
Quick review for this season
modyy-4391725 February 2024
Disclaimer: English is not my first language, so I wrote this simple revision in my first language and translated it through one of the applications. I apologize for the mistakes that may even be in this mention.

It is normal for the second season to be more profound and closer to the viewer, in this season the focus was more on Bill and a review of his problems and the chaos of his life from all ways, I feel that this photography is very close to a character, is what the series needed in the second season. They have been relatively successful in this over the past eight episodes and I must do just to raise the issue and the depth of it that was addressed in the second half of the season, as it seems that he is not a stranger to David Wensher these criminal complications. But in general, the second season maintained its balanced structure, and a strict attempt to connect the story despite its wide branching, until they reached the last episode, which could have been much better than it was, I do not know why the end was so fast, although the duration of the episode is 1:13 minutes, but it was not exploited in the best possible way, simple details that could have made this episode one of the greatest episodes made in the history of television.
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10/10
wonderful psycho thriller
phuketboy29 August 2019
Ed Camp episode was most leading role of this viral drama.

very impressive story & plot.

tension is so nice to watch more carefully.

expected next season episode.

very liking series.
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7/10
Straying from the Center
Hitchcoc27 January 2020
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Just a few words because others have already pretty much said it. This show's foundation is based on the fascinating interviews with serial killers and violent criminals. The first five episodes leading up to Manson are spot on. Then they go to Atlanta and it becomes like any other civil rights movie. We learn that Atlanta was racist in the 70's and it doesn't matter how hard the good guys work, there is a machine that will cut them off at every point. I sympathize with the women who set this in motion, but it is so tedious and repetitive. I suppose there will be a Season 3 at some point. This was just ordinary stuff that's been done a hundred times before.
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10/10
Brilliant
raff-99-7182793 September 2019
Awesome such an amazing series. Being on season 3. Awesome such an amazing series. Being on season 3. Awesome such an amazing series. Being on season 3. Awesome such an amazing series. Being on season 3.
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7/10
Season Two Review
southdavid10 September 2019
I really liked the first season of "Mindhunters" on Netflix. It wasn't the police procedural I was initial expecting (and ready to get bored of and drop after a couple of episodes). It was a slow burning adult story about the birth of psychological profiling within the FBI. This was done by interviews with murderers to try and get behind their motivations. Though this second series was still good, I felt it suffered somewhat in comparison.

Holden (Jonathan Groff), Bill (Holt McCallany) and Wendy (Anna Torv) are still working in the basement at Quantico but a change in management sees them suddenly fully funded and their techniques planned to become standard within the FBI. However, that faith comes with consequences as the bureau need results, so the agents are sent to Atalanta to investigate the deaths of dozens of children in the city. This comes at a bad time for Bill, as a shocking development in his personal life means that the needs to be home as much as possible.

And it's really those additional aspects to this series that took away from my enjoyment somewhat. The first half of the season, with interviewing a few more convicted killers, including Charlie Manson and David Berkowitz is interesting. Once they become embroiled in the Atlanta murders, though it's a fine recreation, it starts to feel a little like just another police drama. As well as dragging the agents away from what I liked to see them do, it also dragged them away from Wendy, so Anna Torv only really features in a subplot this season about her personal life - which she's great in, but I'm not sure really what the point was. (I felt that there might be more in the homosexuality is not a perversion discussion, but unless that's in season three, we don't really get there). I did even end up wondering whether Torv had filming commitments elsewhere, which meant that she couldn't be in the story as much this time. Speaking of their personal lives, I also didn't particularly like the subplot with Bill's family, and not necessarily just the content of that storyline - more that it again took time away from the interaction between he and Holden.

I still enjoy the series, and hope that a third will be possible - I'd prefer it to focus more on the work though.
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5/10
Terrible season finale
nrayman2 September 2019
The season as a whole had been good, captivating and interesting but the last episode was just a let down to the show as a whole. Terrible. Built suspense througout the series for what? To end with no real closure nor any reason to really come back for another series. Can understand what they producers tried to do but it was just a mockery to all the viewers in the end. Disappointed to say the least
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1/10
So disappointing
deleonmoshe30 September 2019
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Seaon one was better, still seaon two was OK. Until the sudden end which is no end at all for not even one of the main teams of this season.

So disappointing!!
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7/10
Open ended
Calicodreamin3 January 2021
At least the main plot was wrapped up, in a historically actuate if not unsatisfactory way. But the subplots were left hanging, which is disappointed. Good acting and cinematography.
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2/10
Total letdown
RipRapRob30 August 2019
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Last episode is basically nothing more than loose ends, trying to drum up a demand for a third season. Everything every episode has let up to, is thrown out for half assed 'ending'.

Look for the Netflix logo before choosing what series or movie to watch next: It's beginning to mean a guarantee for disappointment.
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7/10
Episode 209
bobcobb3013 October 2019
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The show was working for awhile, but it dragged on for too long. They didn't just wrap up the case and instead introduced questions and no real moral resolution.

Cut a half hour of this episode and it would have been great. You can probably say that about most of Season 2.
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5/10
So much for almost nothing...!
antoniopfreitas19 August 2019
The last episode is a total bluff...disappointing! It promised but did not deliver. If you get to write a true story,,,choose a great on!
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6/10
Disappointing
dougmacdonaldburr25 August 2019
I expected a lot more from this season. The first season was great. This one has lacked focus. There have been some things I liked. Usually when they are interviewing the criminals, but, there has been so much I did not like. There is a lot more political correctness forced in. They cover sexism, racism and homophobia. The show did not need all of that. It used to just be about studying the psychology of serial killers. That is why I liked it. If I want to watch something about poverty and race relations then I will watch The Wire. I think this has been a big waste of potential. To be fair the acting, visuals and soundtrack are all fine. My problem is the writing. They have tried to weave too many different storylines together and none of it really worked. There are lots of very interesting cases which they could have picked; Ted Bundy, Ed Gein or Charles Manson, but, the one they did pick was incredibly boring. They should have just picked a really interesting and famous case, then focused primarily on that. You could have the occasional side plots, like maybe they interview other killers in an effort to understand their target, and I don't mind if they want to add a new member of the team, as long as they are interesting and do not disrupt the existing dynamic. They could even introduce a new love interest as long as it doesn't get in the way of the larger story. This is a show about True Crime. That is all I want and need from it. I am very disappointed with this season. I hope the next season is better. If not then I will stop watching this show.
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1/10
Worst Netflix Show Ever
justintannerpw124 August 2019
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Having watched all nine episodes: here is the hard truth: There are approximately 55 minutes of usable footage in the entire season. Enough to have made one really effective episode. If they had cut the entire lesbian girlfriend story line and the entire 'Tench worrying about his wife and son storyline' (which did nothing but repeat the same exact argument without variation about twelve times which was basically: HER: "You need to quit your job" HIM: "I can't quit my job." HER: "But what about our son?"; And if they had cut all the laughably bad interrogation scenes with known killers (Manson, Burkowitz, etc) none of which worked on any level: bad acting, telegraphed writing, way-over-edited direction; And if they had condensed all of the "mothers of the victims" in Atlanta scenes into one scene (there were about five of them, all giving the exact same information); and if they had used the same technique on all the other scenes that did nothing but repeat ad infinitum, the exact same talking points again and again as if the audience was a bunch of idiots who couldn't retain information; And cut the bad jokes and the driving around in police cars and that painfully awful stakeout montage that did nothing but kill time. Maybe it would have been watchable.
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6/10
Who you gonna call...
serrakiper27 August 2019
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It is so disappointing. There is no conclusion. Nothing... Have to wait another season. Alaonit is very sad to hear 29 childs murders are on the shelf... Final episode also about single living style. Not expect more. It is slow season.
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2/10
Struggling to watch
smartinezmd28 September 2020
Having a lot of trouble watching this season. I think that a lot of the subplots are useless. Very painful to watch the character Holden Ford go after Wayne Williams. Myopic and heartbreaking.
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