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7/10
Cool attitude, thin plot
PedroPires9024 November 2022
This movie is about vibes. Wow. An authentic trip, not without flaws, but always with a lot of personality and originality, with no fear of referencing past decades and even using some camp in a ridiculous way.

It's the 3rd movie I've seen with Jeon Jong-seo and there's little doubt to me that she's a star, capable of filling the screen and dominating every scene she is in. In this film, she is once again mesmerizing (ok, ok...) and manages to captivate us with her aura of mystery combined with her innocence.

I have to see The Bad Batch - some reviews have made me postpone this experience - but this is another film that demonstrates how unique Ana Lily Amirpour is, without fear of doing something different and taking risks. The soundtrack of this film is something sensational and all the editing options taken make it seem like we are on an authentic trip. The cinematography is fantastic and is always pleasant to look to the screen full of colours and life.

The script is not as strong as it would be desirable and many questions remain unanswered, but this is a commendable experience, full of style, attitude, and striking scenes that deserve to be much more talked about than it has been.
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6/10
Come on, not a 1 or a 10...but IS a solid movie.
ronan7318 October 2022
I liked it. Acting decent, the boy especially was great. Skrein always good value. And it looked pretty good too. I liked the dreamy, trippy lighting and weird angles. The over all message is also a good one. Without giving too much away...treat those around you how you would like to be treated.

For the reviewer who said nothing happens in the first 30 mins and acting was rubbish....what film did you watch? In the first 30 mins a girl uses her powers to escape a mental asylum, then has a run in with drug dealer, then a comic relief cop, then sees a stripper fight + friendship build and use her special powers accordingly through out...what you were doing when all that was happening? And that same reviewer also said there was no story...is that a joke? Every single person in this movie goes on their own journey with their own story having a start and finish until the bittersweet end of the movie.... I genuinely dont know what movie that reviewer watched.

I get it that these kind of lowish budget trippy movies arent for everyone but saying nothing happens or that theres no story is just silly.

Another reviewer compared this movie to those 70s psychedelic movies and I think they are spot on. I mean has anyone seen tommy? Its even comparable to blade runner too in the look and feel of it.

I also think some of ten star reviews are by family of the makers or by people who have never seen a movie before. That aside this is a pretty solid 6/10.

DO NOT listen to the negative reviewers, give it a watch.. and watch until the end to get the most out of the story and journey of characters.
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6/10
B movie ... done to A movie standards
A_Different_Drummer19 September 2022
... which really is just as rare it sounds. If you missed the 70s through an accident of birth, this little gem can remedy that. From literally the first frame of the film (which immediately bypasses the standard, sequential, "Dramatic Acts") it is clear that this is more a theme park ride, and less a traditional narrative. Director Ana Amirpour, known for her love of reversing and twisting traditional gender roles, seems to delight in this story of an asylum inmate (whose crimes are never fully explained) who also has a super power (the origins of which are also never fully explained); and who -- in a bizarre twist on the PINOCCHIO tale -- just wants to a regular girl. Good luck with that. The first lesson the audience learns about the young lady is, never offer her a choice between "the easy way and the hard way." You won't like her pick. Amirpour is one of a handful of indie auteurs who has a true genius for color and scene setting. Which only adds to the experience. If you keep your expectations in check, a very watchable effort. ((Designated "IMDb Top Reviewer." Please check out my list "167+ Nearly-Perfect Movies (with the occasional Anime or TV miniseries) you can/should see again and again (1932 to the present))
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7/10
Rave to the grave
A_Masry25 January 2023
Although almost completely void of any special effects, this movie is saturated with auditory and visual aesthetics, which are mostly centered around night life, and viewed through the realistic perspective of a wide angle lens, that isn't shy of getting too close and personal.

Plot is original, enjoyable and entirely basic, with emphasis given to "enjoyable", there are no points of high tension, just different music tracks the characters seem to 'swim' through as if guiding the scene. In a very chill fashion, almost dream-like.

The character performance is incredibly realistic, bold, and does a great job in making you view the daily happenings of their extraordinary lives in their original points of view.

Overall, a very entertaining watch. And listen.
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7/10
A feel-good movie, especially if you're into EDM
Flickety-Flix17 October 2023
I enjoyed this movie to the point I watched it twice on Amazon Prime. I'd watch it thrice if there was a French dub (I wanted to try it). The highlight of the movie is the soundtrack, in my opinion. The licensed tracks are clearly carefully curated to create a nocturnal, electronic-infused vibe. In fact, most of the movie is filmed at night. It has some beautiful shots of New Orleans at night and the film definitely goes for something more stylized than realistic. It's what I would call a traditional movie. 3 acts, beginning, middle and end. No pretentions, no sequel-bait, just a nice little story that explains enough about its characters and world.

The cast does a good job in my opinion. The movie isn't overly gory or gritty so don't go expecting a slasher. It has a cool concept of a girl who is some kind of ESPer (like the psychic kids in Akira). She can control people with her mind similar to some form of hypnosis and after escaping a mental institution she was held in, she goes out and about finding people along her way and a few hijinks ensue. (Don't worry, there are no spoilers here, this is pretty much the premise and synopsis).

It's a good little movie that doesn't last that long, it's roughly 1h40mins. I found it rather curious, endearing, mysterious and weird enough to warrant a second or even a third watch. I wasn't expecting to like it, but somehow I did. This unasuming movie found its way into my heart, it appears. Give it a try, dear IMDB wanderer. I think you might have a good time if you fancy the weird and mysterious.
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7/10
Great potential plus points for style
vovers11 October 2022
Monalisa's day out in New Orleans is a fantasy trip of light sound and music. There is not much story, as the journey is the plot.

The opening scenes in the Mental Hospital set the stage immediately and raised expectations beyond what was delivered, however watch Monalisa for the experience. For the visual show with accompanying beat and the awakening of an unknown force on a Blood Moon in the south.

There was potential for so much more, Bourbon St never looked so clean and the characters so normal. I assume budget and Covid took their toll.

Great supporting roles from Kate Hudson and son and some other quirky characters.

Not a masterpiece but a koool adventure.
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5/10
A nice idea that failed to deliver.
Top_Dawg_Critic2 March 2023
This was all style with very little substance. Writer and director Ana Lily Amirpour's choice of style even started getting annoying real quick with the constant convex fish-eye lens filming, loud overbearing soundtrack and score, and all the bedazzled over-contrasted colors. Then you still have to sit through almost two hours of Amirpour's disjointed, unfocused, underdeveloped and sluggish narrative, that also lacks giving any understanding of the protagonist, of whom Amirpour also failed to direct properly. When you finally get to the end of the movie, you'll roll your eyes in disappointment from the boring unresolved ending, and all the questions you'll still have.
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8/10
It's legit, modern & throw back, good flick
dbhughes12 January 2023
This indie like flick shows you can take a minimal plot, minimal lines from the main character Mona Lisa, combine it with good acting and make a hit to rival Hollywood blockbusters. Kate Hudson was bomb also, totally didn't expect to see her in this sort of role, her best performance since Fools Gold. It was one of those unexpected and much appreciated movies, glad I took a chance. I loved that the questionable parts were not overly explained, I like making my own assumptions of what's happening, it makes it personal. As a 90's raver I was digging the soundtrack, the look & the overall feel of the whole movie. Made me wanna get out the blacklight & drop a tab lol Well done to the writer & director. Thank you sirs may I have another? See you in the sequel, I hope!
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7/10
Entertaining enough for me.
deloudelouvain6 December 2022
Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon, a title that doesn't sound like quality, yet it was a enjoyable movie to follow. Easy to watch and entertaining. The story is simple, not really fantasy as advertised, more a mystery than anything else. The cinematography is the best thing about this movie. Interesting camerawork and good editing. The soundtrack on the other hand is a combination of good music with sometimes the opposite, boring songs and sound effects. But I enjoyed most of the chosen songs. The whole cast did a good job playing their interesting characters. Kate Hudson still looks good for her age. Overall a good movie if you looking for an easy watch.
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What did I just watch?
splodgie719 September 2022
This movie is only an hour and forty two minutes long, but after 30 minutes nothing had happened yet. I'm all for the suspension of belief, but nothing in the first ten minutes even made a little bit of sense. It was just plain stupid The acting was terrible, the pace was non-existent, and is it meant to be horror? Is it meant to be horror? Is it meant to be horror comedy? Because it is none of those things. It feels like some kind of student project, except students could do it better because they'd probably remember to include a script or a story of some sort.

This is a big fat no. We will not be making it to the end.
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8/10
Groovy beats and Cool plot
EntertheRaptor22 September 2022
The originality of the idea and its execution is what makes this a fun watch. You won't know where the story is going for at least half of the movie.

I personally would have liked a little more background on Mona Lisa, but it doesn't add or subtract from the plot.

I assumed that the moon would have something to do with her powers, but the story does not dwell too much on the whys and whens.

My favorite part though would have to be Mona's expressions on the flight. That there is some real good acting. I wasn't surprised when I looked Jeon Jong-seo up and found out that she was in "Burning" and "The Call." Both are worth checking out.
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6/10
Mona Lisa And The Juvenile
cahidi7 February 2023
So let's do the good list first. The plot is intriguing, makes you wonder about her origin. Her super power adds some major point to the story line. Everybody loves super powers. And mind control is like top 10 of the coolest ones. The acting is great, I don't know the main actress, but she can definitely act.

Sadly, I have to do the bad list also. There was no clear background story of the main character. I think that's a major downside of this movie. Cause I'm pretty sure the audience would definitely want to learn about it. And then nearing the ending, it's clear that this story doesn't have a closure. I don't know why they made the movie this way. Maybe it's a setup for a sequel or even a prequel? I don't know, maybe they're gonna make them? Fingers crossed.
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1/10
Utterly woeful
namstonk22 September 2022
So I saw the cast and premise and thought we could be on a winner here. Could I be more wrong, what the hell is it? The acting is appalling, the direction is as if it's a school project written by someone below the age of ten. The actors are so miscast it's hard to fathom any professional casting director thinking they were right for the role.

However the ultimate crime is the director thinking her choice of music throughout the movie is somehow atmospheric and clever, let me tell her its hideously bad.

How Ana Lily Amirpour got a gig after her last movie is amazing, it can only be a hope that she returns to the oddness of her debut film. Stop trying to be deliberately weird and get back to directing.
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7/10
Amirpour's third film while not as novel as her debut creates a visually beautiful fever dream with strong performances by Jong-seo, Hudson, and Robinson
IonicBreezeMachine21 October 2022
Set in New Orleans, Lousiana, a disturbed institutionalized woman, Mona Lisa Lee (Jun Jong-seo), escapes from her institution after developing powers that allow her to control those who look into her eyes. Mona Lisa wanders around through the streets of New Orleans and finds help from various residents who offer her food or shoes until eventually she comes across dancer Bonnie "Bonnie Belle" Hunt (Kate Hudson) whom Mona Lisa saves from a brawl by taking control of the assailant. Realizing the powers could be useful, Bonnie has Mona Lisa stay with her and her precocious son Charlie (Evan Whitten) who feels unwanted in his mother's life and strikes up a friendship with Mona Lisa. Mona Lisa is brought by Bonnie to the club where she dances where using Mona Lisa's powers she begins raking in exorbitant amounts of money from unwilling patrons as well as doing similar schemes with ATM users. Meanwhile Officer Harold (Craig Robinson) is hellbent on pursuing Mona Lisa after she forced him to shoot his own leg.

Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon is the latest film from Ana Lily Amirpour who scored a big hit with her debut film A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night and then stumbled in her follow-up film The Bad Batch which received a more divided response from critics and audiences with individual parts given praise while the whole tended to garner less than ecstatic results (myself included as I didn't like The Bad Batch). The movie began production in 2019 and now has been released by Saban Films on digital platforms and hopefully people discover this film because Amirpour creates a visually dazzling fever dream of a movie that shares some thematic DNA with A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night, but manages to forge its own identity in a unique way.

Much like how A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night was inspired by Spaghetti Westerns and Vampire films and Bad Batch inspired by 70s drive-in Cannibal and Post-Apocalyptic films, Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon mines influences from fantasy and sci-fi thrillers of the 80s and 90s with the film capturing the aesthetic of films such The Terminator, Maniac Cop, Warlock or Repo Man where you had films taking place in urban vice filled environments but throwing in some kind of supernatural or sci-fi twist. The movie has a lot of fun subverting the tropes of those kinds of films as Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon doesn't have the nihilistic and cynical streak some of those films had with Mona Lisa's first encounter after she escapes the mental institution almost being a takeoff on the "your clothes, give them to me" scene from The Terminator except in that film where it was meant to be intimidating/darkly humorous, her Mona Lisa is given a pair of shoes by the group in a display of altruism that is uncharacteristically present throughout the film. The movie does still skirt the lines of morality as Mona Lisa's powers do involve taking control of others and the "friendship" she gets from Bonnie Belle is one of convenience and opportunity, but there's a strong human core to this film giving the sense the film is equal parts a creation of atmosphere as well as a character piece.

Jun Jong-seo of 2018's Burning and 2020's The Call is very good in the lead role as Mona Lisa and while she is a threatening presence in the film, there's also a level of emotional vulnerability that makes us empathize with her as she's a broken character who's now been given this extraordinary power while not fully understanding the world. Kate Hudson also is quite good in an against type performance as a hard scrabble exotic dancer who's very flawed as a character especially in her relationship with Mona Lisa and her son Charlie, but there are layers to the character and she's not a two-dimensional antagonist (really no one is). Craig Robinson is also very good as Officer Harold who tries to find Mona Lisa and his driven determination to bring her to justice coupled with his downright awful look from getting shot in the leg (but in the least bad way for whatever that's worth) to then having to do a foot chase after Mona Lisa and Bonnie in one of the film's darkly humorous moments. But the standout performance bar none was in Evan Whitten who plays Charlie and he's primarily known for his TV work such as doing an arc on The Resident and playing Young Elliot in the series Mr. Robot. Whitten does really well in the film and his friendship with Mona Lisa Lee is the kind of emotional core I wanted to grab onto but was lacking in The Bad Batch. Amirpour does a good job of building that relationship and she kind of sets it up as a surrogate brother/sister dynamic that makes you emotionally invested.

I really enjoyed Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon and think it's a great reminder of what a promising talent Amirpour is as a writer/director after The Bad Batch disappointed (at least for me). While there are more than a few shades of A Girl Walks Home Alone at Night in the film's DNA, the movie does a strong enough job to stand on its own and makes a strong companion piece to Amirpour's debut film.
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6/10
Decent watch with several plot holes
balthesaur30 October 2022
'Mona Lisa and the Blood Moon' tells the story of how Mona Lee (Jeon Jong-seo) escapes a mental asylum using her psychokinetic powers and ventures into New Orleans. Mona meets Bonnie (Kate Hudson), a stripper with a heart of tarnished gold, who takes her in, but after a series of bizarre easy-money encounters, Officer Harold (Craig Robinson) takes an interest in returning Mona to the hospital.

Decently shot and acted! Mona is essentially a blank persona influenced by her surroundings, which is engaging to see how her character evolves throughout the story. The flow is decent, but where the faults lie is in the script and the plot - they really don't go anywhere. Mona's origin (why she is in the mental home to begin with), the significance of the moon, and why some supporting characters are even written in makes the culmination of the film a bit of a curiosity.

Worth a once over.
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4/10
Have you ever been so bored?
Graygrrrl3 May 2023
I know I haven't. I think I can safely say Amirpour's first film was a fluke. This and a the Bad Bunch are trying too hard to seem what? Edgy? Avant garde? Interesting? I would be curious what she could do with a script she didn't write. She has good ideas but can't execute them to the page. The most interesting character might have been Fluff (Ed Skien) and he was barely there. What scent is Kate Hudson doing? It's not NOLA that's for sure. Why do it and not explain it?

You can not have a plot, if you have character. You can have bad writing if you have a good actor. You can wander aimlessly- her 1st feature did- if you have something to say. Sadly, this has none of that.
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8/10
A slick, fresh, original drama-thriller from an upcoming potential master
danieljfarthing2 November 2022
In slick, original drama-thriller "Mona Lisa And The Blood Moon" Jeon Jong-seo escapes a mental asylum to New Orleans' seedy, steamy side where she's taken in by the 'colourful' likes of street-punk Ed Skrein, skanky exotic dancer Kate Hudson, & Hudson's kid Evan Whitten... as tired beat cop Craig Robinson hunts her down. Writer / director Ana Lily Amirpour's screenplay is unexpected, fresh & with terrific characters (tho some MAY bemoan the non-traditional plot) and she elicits superb performances (esp the understatedly outstanding Jong-seo) against a richly stylish backdrop (inc pulsating soundtrack). Excellent film-making from an upcoming potential master.
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6/10
Did Craig Robinson eat Chris Farley?
lbz_197911 February 2023
His deal with Pizza Hut must include 4 XL pizzas per day. I half expected Bill Cosby to come out and say "Hey, Hey, Hey it's Fat Albert" every time Robinson appeared on screen.

Well shot movie. Not much of a plot. But this and Glass Onion prove that Kate Hudson still has talent and should be getting much better roles. Ageism in Hollywood towards females is awful. The best actresses in movies today tend to be over 40 yet struggle to find decent jobs. Kate Hudson is still gorgeous and shouldn't be relegated to lower tier movies.

The younger star of the movie has a good screen presence. Hope to see her again.
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4/10
Could've been a lot of things other than what it was, dull
GIJoel611 February 2023
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I don't usually watch things without first referring to their page here for full cast info, and a plot preview. This time, I took the one sentence synopsis attached to my TV listings grid, and the fact that Kate Hudson and Craig Robinson (impressive in his guest role in the series "Mr. Robot") were in it as a sufficient attraction and that was a mistake, mostly because the synopsis implied it would be more like a caper film than it is, and did not adequately describe Hudon's struggling single mom role. This film's worst fault seems to be a lack of ambition on the parts of both the main characters and the writer/director. It has some surprises along the way, and the plot does eventually go in an unexpected direction; unfortunately, that direction is still boring.

I'm guessing Hudson took this job because she wanted to stretch her acting skills, and she succeeds at that far more than usual here, convincingly portraying a tired exploited white trash person with a low-class but not Southern accent supporting her 10ish-year-old son with uninspired exotic dancing in New Orleans. She is okay in the role, but the character is not as sympathetic as these women are usually written. When she eventually happens upon an unlikely opportunity to improve her station, she tries to go from exploited to exploiter, but her idea of economic climbing is penny-ante and lacking imagination. Evan Whitten has been associated with several very high quality TV productions in his brief career and is okay as her son, but was better in his recurring role in the "Mr. Robot" series.

The star of this was Korean actress Jeon Jong-seo AKA Jun Jong-Seo as Mona, and she gave a promising performance in her American debut. The film actually starts off well focusing on her escape from the asylum. The ability Mona displays suggests she is capable of big things but the situations she needs to use that ability in bog down into the trivial, and make you wonder why she even bothers. Another large fault of this film is there is virtually no backstory explaining how any of the main characters got to where we find them. In Mona's case, you wonder if her gift is superhuman but earthbound, or is she an alien? But you don't really wonder very long, and no effort is ever made to answer that question. We get a momentary glance at an intake form for the asylum that notes police had to intervene with her at 3 instances of violence, with no further description. I guess we are not expected to care, but I found it weak storytelling and wondered if the writer cared.

Another problem with the writing is that time seems to fly in this story, and not in a good way. Robinson's cop is traipsing around town chasing Hudson and "Mona" with a sturdy brace around his knee but no visible plaster cast or crutch just hours or at most a few days after he was made to shoot himself in the leg.

"Mona" is the kind of character that would tend to operate without an accomplice in other stories of this genre, doesn't really need one. Because of that, the presence of Hudson's character (and her big name in that role) seemed unnecessary, and Robinson's cop was plodding and expendable as well. The way the story ended felt like a setup for a sequel, and I would not necessarily mind seeing where "Mona" goes on her own initiative, wits and power, without the dead weight of those other characters. The "Mona" character and Jong-seo's portrayal are good enough to justify that.
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9/10
Nice little ambiguous Movie
eamonster26 September 2022
Top film. It's a simple black comedy about a girl that escapes incarceration and the people who want to help and or hinder her. Really nicely filmed in a very indie style. It's quite a neat film for film lovers, an oasis of cool music, all your fave camera angles, characters and colours. No one tries to save the planet in a magic suit from Grifendor or whatever.

Like I said and to summarise; Top film Simple Black comedy About a girl that escapes incarceration.

Nicely filmed Stylish Neat Cool music Camera angles, characters and colours I can't really say much more about this film except, watch it.
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6/10
6 points in a good mood
pip_bln22 December 2022
Well, what's left to say here, except that I've never given 6 points in such a good mood.

This film is definitely a B-movie. But still, it was surprisingly pleasant to watch. Sure, some dialog is too flat, quite a few camera shots too long or, depending on the case, not slow enough. Unfortunately, the whole thing always seems a bit undecided. But somehow on the other hand the whole thing has a pleasant energy, so that in the end you don't get angry about the wasted time of watching it. The mood is pointing ti the right direction. And indeed I wish Ana Lily Amirpour that she manages to get to the point with one of her next films. Then it would be very good indeed.
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5/10
Underdeveloped
pexu12 November 2023
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Very stylish, and perhaps self aware of the level it sets. It never exceeds the threshold that immediately triggers the style over substance flag. The sounds match the visuals well. While one might not like neither, one at least has to agree that choosing something else would have probably been a mistake.

However, the style is not also very original. While bright colors might be trademark of the era, camera movement is nothing new. It will not be not difficult to find a similar, especially less mainstream, film.

Unfortunately, as the story remains flat, in this case the overall subtance is minimal. You've essentially seen the film after the first five minutes.

The main enseble, Mona "Lisa" (Jeon Jong-seo) and Bonnie (Kate Hudson), are not fleshed out to a high degree. The characters are very unoriginal. While Bonnie might not need much explaining, it is just because it's a paper thin copy. Mona is even worse, as from the very beginning, she is essentially invincible.

The most unsatisfying character will be however officer Charlie (Craig Robinson). While playing a major part in the movie, the character is treated like a punchbag. There should be, but there is no friction between the main lead and the officer.

All the actors, including the ones playing smaller parts, do a good job. There very little sloppyness and the movie feels very decent. However, the fault is that pitch only lasts a few minutes, where as the film has been streched to cover almost two hours.

It is a really shame, because at end one might be asking: is Mona just a reflection of a desire of always getting what you want. The desire slips in the dark night, leaving us in the cold, separated from the loved ones; possibly having even less than in the beginning.
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7/10
Forget what you know
nogodnomasters5 November 2022
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Mona Lisa Lee (Jeon Jong-seo) is in a straight jacket as we discover what people wear underneath. Her toes are being clipped by an abusive nurse (Lauren Bowles) who feels comfortable with Mona in the jacket. We soon discover she has mind control ability to make people do things they don't want to do. Using that ability she manages to escape. We later discover she was originally from North Korea and was admitted to the US for political asylum. She has been institutionalized since age 10. Mona makes her way to New Orleans. Her first police encounter is with Harold (Craig Robinson) who ends up shooting himself in the knee. She is taken under wing by stripper Bonnie Belle (Kate Hudson) who uses Mona'a ability to go on a crime spree and to rob bad tippers at "The Panty Drop."

The film had some dark humor moments. You never knew what Mona was up to or thinking. I liked the sound track. Does New Orleans have a permanent full moon?

Guide: F-word. No sex or nudity. Sexual content.
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6/10
a weird little...
ops-5253519 September 2022
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Essay, caused by a blood moon, a incident weve had at least twice this year, where a oriental femmes undergoes magical shapeshift and the abilities to control other people( the threatening kind) by psychic power and force. When watching this rather geeky and coincidental happenings movie, with rom-com lola Kate Hudson reeling out the lines this film is pretty original in its idea, have seen cotrolling people in the past, but not like this. One of my favourite tv series from my childhood years where a swedish series called''pojcken med silverbyxorna'', or translated into english... the boy with the silverpockets'', a boy that each time he snuck his hand in the pocket it came back with a large handful of money... these where the days of big dreams and hope of wealth and opportunities, only to become daiper shifter of proffesion(male nurse yeahhh).

There are two factors i will mention about this film, it has a warm and very colourfilled light and framework, the second that must be nbotifyed is the choice of musical score, a high variety of electro funk rythmic sensation that shuffles you into the oven like a fresh pizza that burns and turns it into a pretty edible film to watch. Also worth to mention is the kid-stars of this groovy lousiana fable, theyre fresh but good.

So summarized its a viewable sort of weird moviemaking, with not so many goals and gains, funny at moments, pretty good rump thinks the grumpy old man (and i like ms hudson too)
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