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7/10
Netflix doesn't want to get its hands dirty
arianna-exe4 July 2022
The coverage was great and the events reconstructed in depth but I feel it wasn't as shocking as it should've been. I've watched the episodes about Ted Bundy from the same creators and I remember feeling disgusted and upset about the way he killed and tortured his victims. Now, I know there are certain things you can't say on tv but in a 3 hours documentary not once it was mentioned (they never dared to even say the word) what he did to his victims before he killed them. There were really slight allusions to tortures in the last minutes but overall it made it seem like he "just" killed his underage victims and it's just not acceptable that a documentary about a "man" like Gacy tries to sugarcoat his crimes. I'm not saying it should've contained gory descriptions and details to the point it becomes morbid and in no way I am one of those sickos who like hearing about stuff like that, but to me these documentaries should be about raising awareness and turning the general public's interest away from this type of individuals; they're doing the opposite, and if Netflix wants to turn serial killers into easily digestible mass-consumable entertainment it should stick to its shows about imaginary ones.
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7/10
Scary Dude
noahharrigan24 April 2022
This is one of those sick stories based on real events that really make you feel for the victims. John Wayne Gacy is probably the sickest serial killer in the history of all serial killers.

Good docuseries that gives you all the information about the killings and the victims (and survivors for that matter) without the series being dragged out. The three episodes were nicely done.
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8/10
Did we need to hear more about this awful person
mls418220 April 2022
Some people say Gacy was racist because he only killed white guys.

I wasn't going to watch this, due to the horrific subject matter and the fact so much has already been done about the waste of space known as John Wayne Gacy.

It was pretty informative. There are interviews with people who knew him personally.

It reminds us that if you were a runaway back then, you were basically forgotten.
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6/10
A vile, subhuman creature.
adrian_rawling22 April 2022
In the annals of US serial killer history, there have been numerous more prolific, depraved or callous perpetrators than John Wayne Gacy.

Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgway, Albert Fish and Richard Ramirez are names that spring to mind.

But I somehow found Gacy's story to be the most sickening. This monster had absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever and didn't appear to be the product of his upbringing or environment. He was a hateful and sadistic sexual deviant by design.

His heartlessness and utter contempt for human life was seriously difficult to comprehend. He was completely hellbent on indulging in his perverted tendencies and disposed of human bodies like they were bags of waste.

Listening to the arrogant, conceited and self-indulgent pig's recordings really got on my nerves. Not even the slightest hint of regret or remorse in him. Quite the opposite in fact, he was actually proud of his hideous life's work and revelled in his infamy, celebrity status, the attention he attracted from Police and the pain and suffering he caused his victims and their families.

When he said that because he had paid for the sexual services of many of his victims he was entitled to do whatever he liked to them, like something you buy from a shop, it became crystal clear that these deaths were not merely the outcome of sexual misadventure.

His insanity plea was a blatant ploy to save his own neck. I believe that most people have some form of mental illness, emotional weakness or inner demons to face, but only the most extreme cases can be used in defence of multiple murders. The question is whether those disorders, however severe, prevent a person from exercising self-control.

Gacy's debauched series of crimes were clearly the actions of an extremely cold-hearted and calculating individual, with a carefully premeditated strategy. I don't feel that he was ever impulsive or out of control - he made a succession of conscious decisions, based on sinister fantasies that he went on to realise time and time again. He was a control freak who got off on owning and degrading his victims.

He might be the most repulsive human being I've ever come across. A lethal injection was a wholly inadequate and relatively painless end, in stark contrast to his casualties. The rotter deserved to suffer total misery and solitude for the rest of his sorry existence. He got off pretty damn lightly in my opinion.

This documentary was not easy to digest and made me feel somewhat uneasy. God knows what the poor souls who had to unearth all the corpses from Gacy's crawlspace went through.

I also felt that compared with the superbly-made Netflix series 'Conversations with a Killer: The Ted Bundy Tapes' it was a little repetitive, lacked explanation and coherence in places, contained some very strange and irrelevant imagery between segments and didn't fully examine important aspects of Gacy's crimes.

That was partly down to the insignificance with which law enforcement treated many of the disappearances, due to the status and vagrant nature of the victims. There were plenty of opportunities to put Gacy behind bars for a long, long time way before his eventual arrest.

There was such a strong homophobia embedded into US society at this point in time that sex crimes committed against males were not taken seriously. The stigma of homosexuality was so negative that many of Gacy's victims were outcasts who had been disowned by their families and living on the fringes of society, which he preyed upon and took advantage of.

It was as if the lives of these young men didn't really matter to anybody.

I think that was what I disliked most about this documentary - the fact that it was a continuation of Gacy's twisted, nightmarish legacy and perpetuating his wicked life for future generations to experience, but with a tragic lack of information on the majority of his victims.

He really should be erased from existence rather than documented or sensationalised. Since notoriety was something that he craved it would be the most appropriate course of action.
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6/10
Starts off interesting, gets a bit indulgent in the middle, but concludes well! [+62%]
arungeorge1321 April 2022
Joe Berlinger's back with yet another serial killer documentary, this time centered around the ruthless John Wayne Gacy. I was afraid he'd waste time focusing on Gacy being a "killer clown" when, in fact, he wasn't - he simply was evil personified! The manner in which he elaborates how he treated his victims and the horrifying aura of feeling powerful from doing such acts is something that's really tough to digest as a viewer. The second episode considerably slows things down, with too many back-and-forth jumps in timelines. However, the third and final episode wraps things up nicely, and seeing the victims' pictures will make any viewer feel a lump in their throat. This is especially the case when you hear Gacy's voiceover proclaiming that society can kill him only once when he's killed 33 times, followed by laughter that sends chills down your spine.
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6/10
A Good True Crime Documentary
tkdlifemagazine22 April 2022
This is a good series and this is a good addition to it. My one criticism of this look at the crimes of John Wayne Gacey is that it doesn't need to be three episodes. The show uses current day interviews and audio tapes of the interviews with the killer to tell his story. JWG is one of the most vile and disgusting serial killers of the modern era and he was "hiding in plain site". It is always amazing how when you watch these stories you can't help but feel sad that if people had put the pieces of the puzzle together just a little earlier how many people would have been saved. If you like true crime this is very good.
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9/10
Disturbing to say the least
tmdarby20 April 2022
I'm a true crime junkie and of course have seen most documentaries on Gacy. This one though, I hadn't heard any of these audio clips before and it really shows the evil of the man. In most footage and interviews Gacy had a mask on. These tapes are something else though. There is one point in episode three where he laughs and if it doesn't send a chill up your spine, nothing will. Probably the best Netflix documentary series I've watched so far.
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6/10
True Story As Told By A Liar
TheFearmakers19 April 2023
This documentary by Netflix, Conversations of a Serial Killer: The John Wayne Gacy Tapes, is a lot like the one centering on Ted Bundy because serial killers, despite their deadly murders and morbid, gothic mystique, don't sound like, say, Hannibal Lecter when they're interviewed, but more like a used car salesman or even a game show host...

Which is what Gacy and Bundy both come across as, and they're two different but extremely similar serial killers as in, one murdered pretty young girls, the other handsome young boys, and both endlessly deny they had anything to do with the murders...

There's simply nothing intriguing about a serial killer lying... It's boring... It's uninteresting... And worst of all, it's predictable...

For example: OJ Simpson, after the jury freed him because of a racist cop, tried promoting a video tape in which he supposedly explains himself: but the public knew it was just OJ lying, and almost nobody bought it...

Herein, the best thing about this particular Gacy documentary is the more typical true-crime-doc elements that surround the titular recordings of Gacy lying his fat head off...

So that sporadic aspect... his own voice recorded after his arrest... is the dullest thing going despite being what's supposed to grab the viewer into watching and, perhaps it does... but it's not what will keep him/her interested.
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8/10
Good exception for Netflix
riktiga_jernet2 May 2022
I'm extremely tired of Netflix documentaries being edited like thriller movies, while basically leaving out just how horrible the actions and consequences of the scumbags committing them are. More focus on the mythic characters of the killers than anything else. Not much about the true sickening impact it has had on people.

This was a good exception. Great interviews with people involved, well edited (even the time jumping), probably as detailed as it can get in this format, and a lot of focus on the victims. Gacy is not painted as the mythic clown (pun intended) people see him as, he is just documented as the peace of garbage that he was. This is probably the best John Wayne Gacy documentary i've seen. Well done!
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7/10
Incredibly tragic
baunacholi-861592 December 2022
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This documentary will chill u to the bone. At least it had this effect on me. Incredibly sad, incredibly horrifying, incredibly unbelievable. It's not only a portrait of someone who brought inconceivable terror and fear over countless families but also a very subtle and sensitive portray of all the victims ... their personalities, their hopes. Ultimately a fulfilled life they never had a chance to develop. Uneasy to watch and very well told with just the right amount of facts vs going into details and become voyeuristic. More than just another true crime story out there simply due to its upmost dark, shocking and heartbreaking background.
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8/10
Well put together doc
Calicodreamin24 April 2022
A concise and well put together documentary on John Gacy, focusing on the investigators and putting a positive highlight on the victims. The interviews were relevant and good use of archival footage.
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Pointless
hmjvdjvuz4 May 2022
Lacks new insight. Instead dwells on the traumatic details for little seemingly no other reason than to shock. Squanders opportunities to examine the psychology presented by the never-before-heard recordings. Overall, this was pointless at best, exploitative at worst.
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6/10
Vile
AndreaWeaver15 May 2022
What is there to say? Humanity can be wonderful and generous just as easily as it can be disgusting and vile. It horrible to think that people like this like among us in the world... All in all, this is your typical serial killer documentary. Nothing out of the ordinary in terms of cinematography or sound design, everything was well done and provacative.
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4/10
Not Enough Gacy
rkw19783 October 2022
If ur looking to hear about Gacys murders in detail u won't. There is 60 hours worth of tape and they let us listen to about an hour of it. And it was nothing that good. I watched this on netflix and it was well disappointing. I had just watched the Dahmer one and the tiniest part of it where they showed Gacy was loads better than this entire documentary and that was like 5 minutes in one episode.

The show is really about the cops who caught him and the lawyers that defended him.

Gacy apparently told this lawyer about every murder in detail on these tapes. If I remember correctly we heard about only two. I learnt more about him from Wikipedia than I did from watching this. I don't even remember them talking about the clown costumes.

The only thing I really learned from watching this and reading wiki is that if I was to wake up handcuffed and naked I'd rather it be in Dahmers basement than in Gacys.
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7/10
Terrible
Gswillis17 June 2022
So a closeted gay guy butchers 30 boys but the lesbian (who is not connected to the story in any way) determines gay guys a the victims? Ridiculous! Another gay serial killer preying on straight boys more like it.
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6/10
Captivating series turns to political exploitation
gurkan_pettersson30 June 2022
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This documentary brings in credible sources with plenty of insight for the first two and a half episodes, the most obvious one being Gacy himself from the audio recordings.

Unlike some other real-crime docs, we quite quickly get into the active investigation and the relevant law enforcement personell. From here on, a lot of focus is put on Gacy as a character. This is done quite well, with characterizations from the time of the investigation put forward rather than contextualizing the crimes we know of today. As a result, the documentary seemingly digs for answers.

Once we get to the second episode a lot of focus is put on the excavation of the crawlspace, were the documentary seems to linger. Perhaps not for shock value, but more to pound home the narrative of how evil John Wayne Gacy really was. This is fine, but is worth keeping in mind for the final episode.

The final episode revolves around the trial and execution of Gacy. This is where the cracks in an otherwise decent-to-good documentary starts to show. Once we deal with the politics of the justice system, the jurors, the public perception of the case, we're no longer dealing in pure objective facts or singular personal opinions. Topics like insanity pleas and capital punishment are highly politicized and to address them even in this historical context with overwelming support on one side you need nuance and finesse. We don't get the other side of the coin, we don't get to hear any other counter-points than those of Gacy's legal team. Whether by mistake, or as an after thought, we stumble into the flaws of the US justice system with selecting biased jurors, and systems that think killing people is justified under certain circumstances, but this is never explored further.

But where the documentary has stumbled, it finally falls when the last few minutes are used as a call to focus on the victims, rather than the serial killer, after close to 3 hours of focusing almost entirely on John Wayne Gacy. Where one family member caught in life-long grief is given a small segment, and names and images of the rest somehow should make up for this.

I feel like this devolved from a documentary about an obviously heinous series of crimes into a political piece in support of capital punishment and a continued neglect of the mental health system in America.
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6/10
This series does NOT focus on the moments before death or the psychology
jeroen475 October 2022
The series on its own is decent, 7/10. What I found missing from the series is an exploration of why John Wayne Gacy did what he did, what he felt about and during his destructive actions, and what he did to his victims other than murder them. The series felt incomplete.

This series deserves a one point deduction for misrepresenting what it is about, so it gets a 6/10 from me. The series appears to focus on the murderer confessing about his crimes: what he did, why he did it and what he felt. In actuallity, the series focuses more on the events around his arrest and trial, and what the people involed with those events thought and felt.

To give you an impression of my taste, these are some series I have rated highly in the past: 'Cyberpunk: Edgerunners', 'The Sandman', 'Violet Evergarden', 'Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song ', 'Great Pretender', 'Messiah', 'The OA', 'Sense8', 'Beastars', 'Dark', and the movies 'Interstellar' and 'Arrival'.
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8/10
Powerful ending
MimiMinna21 April 2022
Great coverage of a horrible man who had done horrible things to innocent boys. Super sad that this could have been prevented if it wasn't for the fact that the police were too slow on the missing boys Emotional ending.
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6/10
"I've Killed 33 People, and You Can Only Kill Me Once"
NoDakTatum13 October 2023
Coming a year after the documentary mini-series "John Wayne Gacy: Devil in Disguise," director Joe Berlinger and his "Conversations with a Killer" series looks at the life and capture of John Wayne Gacy, and suffers from over-familiarity if you are a true crime documentary viewer. Starting with taped conversations made between Gacy and a member of his legal team, this mini-series concentrates on the search for Gacy's last victim, Robert Piest, while jumping back in time to cover his life and previous run-ins with the law. Both sides of the trial proceedings are interviewed, as are some of Gacy's associates and victims' relatives.

Gacy was a monster, and his crime spree still affects thousands of people to this very day. The victims's stories should be told again and again. However, this mini-series covers the same ground as other documentaries, and aside from a few factoids, doesn't offer up anything new. As true crime documentaries gain in popularity, these "Conversations with a Killer" series seem stagnant and sometimes exploitative. It does try to redeem itself with a coda about the victims, but I am still waiting on a documentary solely about the victims, and/or a no-holds barred dramatization of Gacy's life and crimes. Getting Gacy's children or step-daughters, he was married twice, to talk on camera would also be a major coup. "Conversations with a Killer: The John Wayne Gacy Tapes" is adequate at covering the serial killer, but I would definitely recommend you seek out "John Wayne Gacy: Devil in Disguise" over this.

Contains mild physical violence, profanity, nudity, some sexual content, very strong sexual references, very strong adult situations, some drug abuse references, alcohol and tobacco use.
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9/10
Another Great Netflix Serial Killer Documentary
roondogbb24 April 2022
With most drama shows or even documentaries on Netflix, they can be rather hit or miss, but generally one thing that a viewer can always bank on is that Netflix delivers the goods with regards to documentaries concerning serial killers. The reason is perhaps society's morbid fascination behind the minds of the worst killers of the past century. The John Wayne Gacy tapes were fascinating to watch, I never heard of this case before watching this documentary. Perhaps due to the fact of my age as I was only a baby when he finally was executed much less caught earlier in the late 70s.

The documentary is spanned over 3 episodes, the first looks into the victim that opened then case and also into John Gacy's background as a young man, all very informative and you think of this killer as a person, not one you are empathetic towards but perhaps understanding towards how his sociopathy came to be. One thing of note. I have to say and perhaps the documentary could have been a little stronger at pointing out. Across the United States, sodomy was a criminal offence as was buggery. So homosexuality was unfortunately looked upon very negatively by many people in the United States. Which of course has much changed since. The second episode focuses on the case and the building of it. The third episode looks at conclusion of the case, the trial, the execution. Spread throughout the 3 part documentary you have interviews with people from all angles of the case. People who were almost victims, relatives of victims. The cops, prosecuters, defence attorny and indeed John Gacy via tapes from beyond the grave

Eventually in the modern era with the advancement of DNA technology, bodies that just had numbers attached to their names were identified years after being buried. All in all, one of the beat serial killer documentaries out there. You'll not be disappointed if you enjoy watching them.
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9/10
An excellent series.
Sleepin_Dragon1 May 2022
A series examining the harrowing case of John Wayne Gacy, a serial killer, who targeted young men.

This rates as one of the best documentary series I've seen to date on Netflix, very well made, intriguing and pretty factual.

If you are easily upset, I'd say you could well be upset by some of the content, it doesn't hold back at all, it provides some pretty explicit information about Gacy's crimes, some of the accounts are heart breaking to say the least.

I thought the second episode was the most intriguing part, it had me enthralled.

The tapes are shocking, what you hear may just give you an idea of what the man was about, treating his victims like dirt on his shoe.

Pogo The Clown has to be one of the creepiest things I've seen, the guy not only was a monster, he visually created one too.

9/10.
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4/10
Needed More Detail
sarah_foo24 April 2022
I thought it was a good documentary visually it was well presented but I wanted more detail, it seem like the doc was the sparksnotes version of the case.
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8/10
Evil personified
lesley-630362 May 2022
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I watch crime documentaries a lot. This one really did get to me. Maybe as I have a teenage son. The way this perverted psychopath treated those poor boys, who had never done anything to him, he tortured them, they died horribly at his hands then he discarded their bodies like pieces of rubbish. I can't help but think if the police had done their jobs properly and more victims have come forward then many victims may have been spared. It seemed he continued to kill simply because he could and the body count went up.

In the tapes hearing him made my skin crawl, he sounded like he was talking about something trivial, having a chat, laughing in parts, he showed no regret or compassion for his victims or their families. Rob Piest was a normal 15 year old boy, who Gacy manipulated by mouthing off within earshot, about how he paid boys double what rob was getting in his current job. This lead to rob after his shift, asking his mum (who's birthday it was) to wait before taking him home as he was "going to speak to a guy about a job" if only he had gone home with his mother sadly he never returned, according to Gacy, Rob asked him about a job, Gacy said he was too busy and rob basically invited himself into Gacys car to talk more whilst driving. I'm sure not many people believe this version and that's the thing how much of what Gacy says is ever the truth?

When Gacy asked what would he do for money, poor Rob answered he was not afraid of hard work, I guess the handcuff trick took place he then told the boy he was going to rape him and described Robs final moments where he had the rope around his neck and was crying and frightened, the phone rang Gacy stepped away and when he came back Rob was dead. He had died of asphyxiation after having paper towels shoved down his throat (discovered after body was found) he died horribly, alone and scared - this was someone's child. They all were. Rob came from a loving family who reported him missing, his best friend had put a receipt in his pocket which turned up at Gacys house and eventually Gacy was caught due to this.

Survivors told their stories, they are lucky to be alive, even after all these years you can feel the emotion in their voices can tell the trauma of what they went through still affects them to this day. Gacy purposely chose boys who had a naivety about them and were slight in build, for him it was all about controlling that person. He thought he was so clever, could pull the wool over the police eyes and believed he could even outwit the legal system by going into detail of his crimes and pleading insane (you can't treat a psychopath it's in their personality) when that didn't work he then said he killed no one and was an accomplice to some of his workers who lived with him, helping them to hide bodies. He appealed using this and each time his appeals were rejected.

I still don't know what makes a psychopath, ok he was bullied in school for being overweight, was often I'll as a child, his dad belittled him verbally and was physically abusive to him and was an alcoholic. However he did have good relationships with his sisters and his mother and still looked up to and respected his father. Others have been through worse and haven't turned out as he did.

For me it's all about the victims, and part 3 definitely touched on this, was very sad.

He was an evil twisted sexual predator and quite frankly death by injection was too good for him.
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8/10
Dark, ominous and highly engaging!!
sanjubhat22 April 2022
Conversations With a Killer: The John Wayne Gacy Tapes This chilling web series takes a deep dive into the life of part time clown and serial killer John Garcy who went on a torture, rape & murder spree of around 33 young men in the 1970's before he was finally captured and put to death by lethal injection.

The series is highly engaging as it switches flawlessly between testimonies given by investigators and the interrogation tapes of John Gacy himself.

This 3 part miniseries is focussed and highly recommended. 3.5/5 from me.. 🙂
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9/10
Evil at its finest
brett-7626021 April 2022
No question there are evil people walking the planet. And this series will remind you of that. It's a hard show to watch but well made and very informative. Sad sad sad for everyone that was affected by this individual. The great Denis Miller said it best... "Sometimes you just have to thin the herd". JWG had no business being in the herd and he got what he deserved...
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